Eric Pare and Kim Henry - Artists - Throwback

Step into the world illuminated by the visionary artists Eric Pare and Kim Henry, as they weave their adventures in light painting and landscape photography into a narrative that transcends the boundaries of art and technology. Their tales of traversing the US and Canada, battling climate extremes to seize the perfect shot, are as captivating as the images they create. These trailblazers not only paint with light but also shed light on the intricate dance between cryptocurrency and creativity. They lay bare their artistic process and journey into the NFT space, revealing how they've adapted their craft for the digital age and the significance of hardware wallets that are as much a statement piece as they are a security measure.

As Eric and Kim sketch out the importance of artist ownership in the NFT ecosystem, they delve deep into the ethics and legalities of creative collaboration. With Montreal as their canvas, they dream of expanding their artistic horizons and nurturing spaces that celebrate community and innovation. They examine the emotional resonance of art that connects deeply with audiences, differing from the commissioned work to personal projects that speak volumes. This episode also touches on the familial ties to art collection, the influence of podcasts in the NFT onboarding experience, and the vibrant communities that champion the confluence of performance, dance, and digital artistry. Join us for an episode that not only spotlights the duo's expressive journey but also the pulse of an emerging era where art and ownership are redefined.

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Transcript

NorCal Guy: 0:06

Who is this guy? North Calgary, north Calgary, north Calgary and Shill podcast. So it's Shill time. North Calgary and Shill podcast Put the shill. North Calgary and Shill podcast. So it's Shill time. North Calgary and Shill podcast Put the shill. Hey, everyone, welcome to the next episode of North Cal and Shill. Today's guests is Eric Puri and Kim Henry.

NorCal Guy: 0:41

Photographer Eric Puri and contemporary dancer Kim Henry have built a lifestyle of combining passions for performing art, photography, travel and light painting. Exploring the world with their light painting tubes, they create unique imagery, mixing light painting and landscape photography in magnificent locations, sharing every single tip about their techniques along the way. When they are not on the road, you can find them performing studio photography in Montreal, where they captured dance using 176 cameras on a full 360 degree setup. The mixing studio and outdoor photography allow them to continue pushing their limits while keeping the balance between those complementary aspects of their art. Their work has been featured on CNN, mtv, bbc and TEDx, and they have worked on large scale campaigns with Audi, apple, adobe, hp, espn, intel, canon and Microsoft. Some recent projects brought them and their team to Coachella, panorama, ces, south by Southwest Exposure and the Olympic Games. Everyone, please welcome Eric and Kim. Hey, eric and Kim, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today, hello?

Kim Henry: 2:09

We're good, we're super happy to be here.

NorCal Guy: 2:11

Oh good, I mean, this is a good surprise, kind of planned, kind of planned. I knew you guys were coming across the US doing like a big U or a circle, I should say, because you're going to go back across Canada. But yeah, it's like, hey, we should try and meet up in person and maybe do a podcast and maybe just have some coffee or dinner or something we'll see, or maybe shoot, or maybe shoot, or maybe shoot that is my possibility tonight.

Eric Pare: 2:44

I want to see you with the tube swinging, the whole thing I feel like I'm going to break something.

NorCal Guy: 2:50

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see, it'll be fun, probably a lot of learning. I need some pro tips before we do it. It's so easy. It's so easy. Now you can't. There's a barrier to entry and it's really complicated.

Eric Pare: 3:07

Well, the complicated part, I'm going to handle it. But then you hold the tube, it's going to see it's super easy.

NorCal Guy: 3:14

Alright, perfect. So you guys, how was your drive through California?

Eric Pare: 3:19

Great. We saw a lot of pines fruits. It was beautiful.

Kim Henry: 3:23

It was all new because we spent more than three weeks in the desert for a month and a half.

Eric Pare: 3:35

It was a shock. Yesterday we went from 40 Celsius to 12, I think, which is cold.

NorCal Guy: 3:43

Oh man, yeah, that is a change. So that was in Tahoe.

Eric Pare: 3:49

Yeah, in Tahoe it was cold.

NorCal Guy: 3:50

Okay, yeah, I haven't even looked at the weather, at what the weather is like in Tahoe, but yeah, it's been warm here, though it's warm where we are For sure today was warm for me at least in the secret location. Yeah Well, I'm glad you guys made it safely. Do you guys have a hardware?

Eric Pare: 4:09

wallet as a fashion item, as a fashion, you do.

NorCal Guy: 4:14

All right, all right. Hopefully that one's empty.

Kim Henry: 4:18

As we knew we were coming here, I was like, well, hey, eric, maybe you should, you know, set it up. So he decided to bring it, like for the whole trip, thinking that at some point we would have time, and we did not because we were shooting.

NorCal Guy: 4:34

So working.

Kim Henry: 4:35

Yeah, I do have one, and I remember when I started to learn about crypto a year ago, I was like, oh, eric, I need to buy a hardware wallet. It's really important. And it was like, well, you don't have crypto, you don't have NFTs, so it there's no rush.

NorCal Guy: 4:56

Right right.

Kim Henry: 4:58

So as soon as I as it was relevant, I I got mine.

Eric Pare: 5:02

Perfect. Well, she bought me this one.

NorCal Guy: 5:05

Yeah, it is my color. I didn't even realize that they came in those colors. Yeah, you know I, maybe I should pick up one. I'll talk to JMP and be like hey, special colors. So what were your first thoughts when you guys heard about NFTs?

Eric Pare: 5:25

So it's about 16 months ago. People were talking about that on my Instagram post. They were like, oh, eric, this is going to be a good NFT. And I was like, oh no, no, I'm too busy on tiktok. I'm making tiktok videos because things were going wild over there back then for me, so always putting a lot of energy on tiktok and then was not in to learn something new what a mistake. I missed a big wave in summer 2021, but at some point, of course, I understood what it was about and I started to talk about her. Hey, look what we have. There could be this, that, and so in September, so a year ago, I started to mint and it went well from the beginning and playing in this space since then, and crypto was new for us. But so we started to learn so many things because of the NFTs.

NorCal Guy: 6:19

It's a huge learning curve. I mean, there's so much to learn. Like there's a lot to learn.

Kim Henry: 6:23

There's a deep rabbit hole, if you want to go down Exactly, and then you start to learn and you think, you know, and then it changes. You know it keeps, it keeps changing true.

NorCal Guy: 6:35

So why did you choose art? Or I guess I could access to both of you. So why did you choose art, photography, and then after that, how did you get into the dance Really?

Eric Pare: 6:44

I didn't really choose that. This is just what I do. It's deep in me I have to create things. It's been like that forever for me. But I mean to Take also and I mix both using tons of cameras Things that I have, at the studio, been building this life forever. That's what I do.

Kim Henry: 7:06

I like it for me. Well, I, I guess I I grew up like in a family where there are no artists per se but there's an artistic sense like my. I remember my grandfather was playing accordion and I would be like Super excited, very like I would basically get so excited that I would vomit when I would hear it.

NorCal Guy: 7:29

I was I love it so much.

Kim Henry: 7:31

Did I just say that on the that's good, it's good. Good thing I don't do that anymore. No, I'm okay, I recovered so yeah, but I was mostly into sport growing up, like I did Competitive gymnastics for nearly 10 years.

Kim Henry: 7:45

Oh wow, I had, like I really loved to do like physical stuff, but then I got into dance, actually when I was maybe 19 years old, so that's pretty late for a dancer but before going to university I I wanted to take a year off and try something that I knew I could not do afterwards. You know, like when you do like the serious stuff which is okay going in science and stuff. So I took a year off and I moved to New York and took like six months of Like full-time dance classes.

Kim Henry: 8:21

Wow, yeah, fun to do something else and like have that check off my list, I guess, and that's it, I never stopped.

NorCal Guy: 8:30

Oh, I never.

Kim Henry: 8:31

Basically never went to the plan a which was like To do like that serious stuff.

Eric Pare: 8:40

But why do you were doing this like in New York and Dance thing. Do you ever think about having your own project, like you're doing now?

Kim Henry: 8:47

Not really, because in my mind, like it was not an option of a serious career, like dancing was something you do as a hobby, right, until I realized that, no, it was actually possible and it was an artistic Medium and a creative outlet that was actually Mine. You know that that was the one that I wanted to to explore. So, yeah, so yeah. I guess it was a naive thought at first that well, maybe it's possible. So, it's just, I never stopped thinking about jobs.

NorCal Guy: 9:23

What jobs have you done along the way?

Eric Pare: 9:25

I am a programmer. Oh, yeah, yeah, I called oh that's awesome. Well, I'm kind of retired right. It's gotten to something else. Yeah Well, my team fired me basically Because I called the first 360 multi-camera system we have at the studio. I did it myself 11 years ago.

Eric Pare: 9:43

Okay but I just got too busy, so so many things to handle. So I heard two programmers and that's. So now I'm not coding, but I know how to manage, yeah, team and make the software. I do what I'm looking for. Yeah, I was a C sharp, as you all developer.

NorCal Guy: 10:01

Oh, wow, okay. And what jobs have you done along the way?

Kim Henry: 10:06

So I worked at a restaurant for about a day. I broke a few glasses, I was pretty clumsy and on the same day I got an offer to work. It's called a youth center. Yeah, like a youth center. So it's kind of community centered with teenagers. I was in charge of the artistic and sport like part of that. So I jumped into that and I did that for about five years while studying dance and doing other projects, and I really loved it.

NorCal Guy: 10:39

That's awesome. If you guys were an animal, what would you be and why?

Eric Pare: 10:45

It'd be a chimney swift. Do you know what that is?

NorCal Guy: 10:48

No.

Eric Pare: 10:48

It's a bird.

NorCal Guy: 10:49

Okay.

Eric Pare: 10:50

And it gets super excited during the blue hour and that's the same for me with the light painting. This is our prime time this is where we get this deep blue color in the sky, like when I see the chimney swift, I think about like that moment that we have to be out and work. It lasts just for 15 minutes. It's once a day. Well, I guess it's twice a day, but morning is harder.

NorCal Guy: 11:15

Right, right, we do these All right. I like that. I like that I didn't even know that.

Kim Henry: 11:20

For me while I kept changing my mind. If you ask me the same question tomorrow it's going to be different, but today I would choose, like Desert Fox, either Kit Fox or Fennec Fox.

NorCal Guy: 11:33

Yeah, okay.

Kim Henry: 11:34

So I don't know. They're one in the desert, so in the sand, and I feel like this is an environment in which I feel home at home.

Eric Pare: 11:44

I don't know why you're saying that, because we met one a few days ago and they didn't end up well.

Kim Henry: 11:48

Well, I know, but like they're curious, but they're kind of shy, so I feel like this is yeah, this is me.

Eric Pare: 11:56

Yeah. So we met at Fox in the desert and it looked cute at first, but then we saw it was chewing on my sandal, destroying it and then peeing on it.

NorCal Guy: 12:08

That's so funny. You're just letting you know. Hey, I'm taking over.

Kim Henry: 12:12

Exactly, You're like you're in my place.

NorCal Guy: 12:16

You guys have a favorite food.

Kim Henry: 12:17

I'm going to take that one for both of us.

Eric Pare: 12:19

Oh.

Kim Henry: 12:19

I think Okay, I don't think we have a favorite food per se. We like to eat in general, but as an experience, like we've been eating once a day for a while now. It's been a few years now, yeah, so when we eat, we feast, so it's like it's an event.

NorCal Guy: 12:39

Right, right.

Kim Henry: 12:40

So I would say anything that takes time, like raclette or hot pot, or if we're not cooking, it's like Korean barbecue or something, something that you can, you know, take your time, enjoy the experience and like just disconnect from everything else.

NorCal Guy: 12:58

An experience besides just the food Got it. What's been the best piece of advice you have been given?

Eric Pare: 13:07

My father told me so many times to work hard and think Got it right. So, yeah, I don't have a TV. I always work, but I always feel like I'm on vacation because the work I do is playing with toys you know, either with my light painting stuff or in my multi-camera studio.

Eric Pare: 13:29

So I always feel like it's work, but it's something I really enjoy. And there's that mix also between doing studio work, which feels like I'm doing something easy because it's at home, it's a control environment, but then when we go out on the road to work in the field it feels like it's vacation because we're going somewhere, but still it's work. So we balance that and it's super fun, oh nice.

NorCal Guy: 13:55

All right.

Kim Henry: 13:56

I have two, I think, and the first one it's similar to what Eric said. Like my mom kept telling me that if you choose to do something, you have to give it your best like do it the best you can, yeah.

Kim Henry: 14:12

So I guess it comes out to like doing things with like wholeheartedly and like working hard and commitment and stuff like that, or don't do it. So choose what you want to do and invest your time and energy in. Okay, so that would be the first and the second one I don't remember where you know it's something that probably is in many different you know sources, but is to focus and act on what I can control.

NorCal Guy: 14:45

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Kim Henry: 14:46

So more like a philosophy, I guess.

NorCal Guy: 14:48

Yeah, don't worry about the things you can't control.

Kim Henry: 14:51

Exactly, it's a waste of time and energy.

NorCal Guy: 14:54

Solid. Those are good pieces of advice. Do you have advice for artists coming into the NFT space?

Eric Pare: 15:02

I got was in a discussion with a friend yesterday by a messenger and I said I asked because it's a super good photographer, asked me, did you start to look at NFTs? And he answered not. Yet I checked a little bit. It's easy, right, you just upload a few images and was like, okay, yeah, everything has been said. You know, we know, we know how to teach these photographers how to get in, but how to make sure they get that message is something else. Because even if we've been saying the same thing, like take your time, look at the, build your community All these, these tips have been said for a year now. Okay, but these messages are not going to these photographers. They're not still in the NFTs. Oh, yeah.

Eric Pare: 15:51

Maybe you have a tip about that how we can make sure they know before it's too late, before the lazy mint or before they do something that they're going to regret.

NorCal Guy: 16:01

Yeah, I mean, if you're not willing to take your time and then kind of look around the space before you just jump in, I mean you're definitely going to make mistakes.

Eric Pare: 16:10

Yeah, the first thing would be to talk to friends that are already in this space. Yeah, for sure.

NorCal Guy: 16:15

That would be a good starting point. Talk to people that are in this space.

Kim Henry: 16:19

Yeah, what can I add to that? I guess, yeah, be curious, be curious to learn and don't be afraid to ask questions, ask for help and, yeah, I guess, explore.

NorCal Guy: 16:36

There's a lot of helpful people in this space. You never know unless you ask. In worst cases, exactly Just get a know.

Kim Henry: 16:43

And probably, like someone, made that mistake before you.

NorCal Guy: 16:47

Right.

Kim Henry: 16:47

Before, so you can take advantage of that experience that is already there.

NorCal Guy: 16:53

Right, right for sure.

Kim Henry: 16:54

Do you have one? I know you have plenty and we've heard you, but do you have Advice for new artists? Yes, something that you would advise today.

NorCal Guy: 17:02

I mean I'm along the same lines as like take your time, Definitely, look around the space, mint on your own contract, Because at this point I feel like there's no excuse why you shouldn't be doing that, Because that is your signature basically on the art, versus like help and see contract or foundation contract, and nowadays I mean on foundation even you can use your own contract. So Own contract for sure Once you're ready for that. If you could live or move anywhere, where would you live and why?

Eric Pare: 17:37

We live in Montreal currently and it's a good base as we travel a lot. It's always fun to go somewhere, but to come back because quality of life is so great in Montreal so I wouldn't live anywhere else. But you're my home, You're my home. I would just want to be where Kim is.

NorCal Guy: 17:59

Got it All right. That's fair. That's fair. I like it.

Kim Henry: 18:04

Yeah, maybe to compliment. I think we love Montreal and it's a great place to be. I love going through the seasons and stuff, but that implies that we can travel, because I feel like we need that for what we create, but also I love to travel. We both do so. If we could not, let's say we could not.

NorCal Guy: 18:26

Okay.

Eric Pare: 18:27

Then probably it would be somewhere in the States, in Utah or like driving distance from a lot of desert and nature, that would be Moab or Vegas, vegas, okay, yeah, not that we want to live in Vegas, but this is like a central point to go to a lot of places.

NorCal Guy: 18:52

Yeah, okay, all right, so somewhere close to the desert. So here's what would you make if you had an unlimited budget?

Eric Pare: 19:01

If you would have asked me that question 10 years ago, I would have described what I have now.

NorCal Guy: 19:07

Oh, okay.

Eric Pare: 19:08

This studio that's live that I've been building for that long. But being there now I see all of the mistakes that I made, the things that I've never thought about because, yes, I have a team, but each of them is so important that if someone goes sick or leave for vacation long vacation I don't have any other options. So being at that point requires me to go three times bigger in 10 years and, of course, the technology is changing. So I don't allow myself to for that kind of question because it's not realistic. But what I'm going to work for is just to improve what I currently have, which is the three studios.

Eric Pare: 19:52

I want bigger ones because there are some limitations, want better cameras because they're getting old. Now I started to collect cameras eight years ago for that specific model and I have 400 of them now, but they're getting a bit old so I will have to upgrade at some point. But it's massive investments. So, yeah, unlimited money makes me think about that, but I know I'm going there anyway just with the work that we create at the studio with the team.

Kim Henry: 20:22

I would add to that probably like place where we can put all our creative expression or like all in one place. So we already have like the 360 studio and 3D scanning, but I would probably add to that a space like a gallery space and a place for live performances, for dance and a place for research and have like artists come in and like residencies and stuff. So it creates kind of a community in the creative building, or however we would call it.

NorCal Guy: 21:00

Yeah, that'd be fun. So if Eric takes the shot and you're in it, Cam, and the camera is owned by the company, whose photo is it?

Eric Pare: 21:10

Okay, so technically, as I press the button, I have the copyright. But it's her image. So if I don't have a model release, she still has rights. I cannot use the image commercially, so that's the legal part. But of course we have our way of working.

Eric Pare: 21:30

We've been working together for a very long and most of our projects are common, like the night reflection collection. She's dancing, I'm doing the well, she's staying still, but she's taking a dance move and I'm doing the light painting behind her, and been minting for a long time these images and I don't know if I should go in there. But, like, technically, I pay all the expenses. I pay her back a percentage on each cell.

Eric Pare: 21:59

But we started to jam about this idea what's left for the dancer? Because for us it's easy, like we share, correctly, but like in a dancer, photographer or model photographer relationship or just contract or any project, what's left for the dancer or the model in an NFT project? Not much, I don't know. So, yes, you can do splits on foundation or things like that. But I wanted to push that further as we have so many projects in common and she started to have some really deep and profound ideas about new projects. I was like okay, this is going to be yours, so I'm giving you all of the commercial rights. I'm going to take the picture based on what you're asking. So this is her project now. So we're trying to just to build that different way of working where she truly owns everything, like the commercial usage she's minting on her own contract, et cetera.

NorCal Guy: 23:01

Right, I definitely noticed that because I noticed that we had there was work under you, eric, and then I saw separately there was work from you. Okay, there is all these different like issues with, like model versus photographer and like who has the rights and everything. But I mean there's also, I guess there's your vision, chem, and like you bringing that the vision and you're like could pay the photographer to take the photo type thing and I guess they sign off on that. Technically, I. I mean I guess your situation is a little bit different than out in on the real world where You're working with someone you hired versus Someone that is your partner.

Eric Pare: 23:41

Yeah, I work with other dancers and I've been doing that for probably two years now when I'm going to share a folder where I have all the images that are final for posting and they can post it on their social media, and sometimes I have a sub folder that it's called for you. So these are images that you can use commercially. You can add whatever they want on it. No need to mention because there's it's hard for them like they need content. Yeah, and I want to be useful in my work. Yeah, because I'm using these images for my promotion and I want them to have also some images.

NorCal Guy: 24:18

Yeah, nice, I like that. Do you have any questions for me?

Eric Pare: 24:22

We do have 20 questions.

Kim Henry: 24:24

How much?

Eric Pare: 24:24

time do you have?

NorCal Guy: 24:26

Well, we tell blue out, I guess.

Kim Henry: 24:30

The first one is are you conscious of the impact you have like in for artists, but like Larger than that, I would say, like in people's life, and how does it impact you? Or how did it change If it had an impact?

Eric Pare: 24:47

when you go to bed at night. How do you feel about that?

NorCal Guy: 24:50

It's weird to think about for me at least because I'm like I Didn't when I first started and Steven now, I'm like Didn't come into this to like make a name for myself, like I just came in and was enjoying and enjoying the friendships or conversations I was having. That's it. You know, I hear people say like, oh, you're making such an impact, and I'm like I don't know what I'm doing, I'm just here enjoying it. You know I give people my opinion on stuff they asked for it. But yeah, I don't know. I guess, also because it is online, it's kind of, in a way, kind of separated. I don't visually see impacts on Other people's lives as much as like if it was in person.

Eric Pare: 25:41

Yeah, what I can tell you is that we get a lot of Brand deals and this is partly how we make money. Yeah, we pay for everything. I never got that physical reaction. Something happened when I saw that you got one of our piece on foundation. Oh yeah, I cannot describe that. This is something different. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

NorCal Guy: 26:02

Oh yeah, something else. I mean that is definitely different. I mean it's definitely a different way of you're making the art that you like both of you and Instead of what the client wants. I guess it's delivering for a job versus Selling work that you create for yourself that someone else depreciates.

Eric Pare: 26:20

Do we still work for us, that we create our personal work, and sometimes it gets viral on social media and this is how agencies are seeing our work and then they hire us for campaigns. So, as we've been doing that personal work for a long time, means we have content for and if these, we never plan for this. Okay, but now we just just continue.

Kim Henry: 26:42

I remember you you were talking about that a few months ago like is your wife involved in Collecting with you? I know back then I think you said not really, but I'm curious if that has changed.

NorCal Guy: 26:56

Not, it's still not a whole lot. I mean, she has picked out a couple pieces here and there, but overall she's like you, do you and that's it not much. She's not involved very much.

Eric Pare: 27:09

So you don't show what she just purchased?

NorCal Guy: 27:12

look at this you may just so cool, I'll show. I mean, I'll show her stuff, yeah, yeah, definitely sure stuff, and she'll see the physicals when they arrive. But she's like another box. You receive a lot of those yeah, I have received a few of them.

Kim Henry: 27:30

How many?

Eric Pare: 27:30

so far don't know it's just too many to count. Okay, so we're not going to send you anything we're on the road anyway but we brought you a tube and a couple of force cards.

NorCal Guy: 27:41

Okay, yeah.

Kim Henry: 27:43

Yeah, this is free to start playing with your daughter.

Eric Pare: 27:46

Okay, or just put it on the wall. I just yeah, you can put a flashlight of it and creates beautiful colors, okay.

NorCal Guy: 27:54

If I put it on the wall, you both have to sign it then how, oh yeah? I gotta get a sharpie, I guess, I don't know, that's good point. I have to learn some camera techniques tonight.

Kim Henry: 28:06

Yeah, there are plenty of us who could help you.

Eric Pare: 28:11

Right, right, right. Be careful. This is so addictive once you start.

NorCal Guy: 28:14

You never stop. All right, all right, that's fair. It's a fair warning.

Kim Henry: 28:19

I have one last question. Yeah do you read or listen to Audio book or?

NorCal Guy: 28:24

podcast yes, ish.

Kim Henry: 28:27

Okay, so my question is what have you been reading or listening to lately that had a you know Either I don't know how do you reflect upon, or something that you like to share?

NorCal Guy: 28:42

Yeah, so I mean okay, so man, I'm blinking on even the podcast I was. So last podcast I listened to was man. It was about onboarding people into the nft space. There's what on. I'm gonna have to look it up, but it was. It was really good talking about that. The way that you know the mass adoption is gonna happen is people first owning NFTs and then they'll be able to sell that for crypto in the future and that's basically a geared towards gaming mainly and then Ex potentially expanding from there. I think one kind of random example that uses like somehow getting a piece of art Outside of the gaming industry. But that was me. I can't believe I'm blinking on all the names on it. That was about it. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts.

Kim Henry: 29:35

Well, I guess you're a busy.

NorCal Guy: 29:38

Like cuz. I listened to each one of these podcasts again to make sure it sounds good and that's about it, usually so. I live in a small town. I don't have a lot of driving time, and when I'm at home I'm usually with my kids. So If I like, drive somewhere which two weeks ago, a week ago I went to San Francisco for a night to watch a movie, and so it's a three hour drive, so I was able to listen to some stuff then, but other than that I'm not usually listening to anything.

Eric Pare: 30:16

You know, people are going to draw radius stuff for two hours around San Francisco. They might fall in the ocean.

NorCal Guy: 30:23

I could live in Tahoe, fresno maybe, I don't know if that's close enough.

Kim Henry: 30:29

Or how fast or slow you drive. Yeah, right.

NorCal Guy: 30:31

Right, whether I took a car or a helicopter or a jet A bicycle A bicycle Mm-hmm.

Kim Henry: 30:42

Nothing that comes to mind now.

NorCal Guy: 30:46

If you guys have any shout outs, I actually might be putting this on next week. Do you have any shout outs or anything happening after next week you want people to know about?

Eric Pare: 31:00

Nothing happening next week, but I went to shout to the Sloika team. They've been so great with us Ev, Pam and Arsene. They're helping so many photographers to get into NFTs and they educate so they know how to get started. They require the photographers to get their ENS name prior to minting and we were probably the second mint back in September of last year and we minted 12 series of 9 images over there and they're really, really good. So they're doing a lot for the photography community Nice.

Kim Henry: 31:38

They're very helpful and very good people.

NorCal Guy: 31:41

Nice, that's awesome here.

Kim Henry: 31:42

Do you have anything? No, well, we've been on the road creating for the past month and a half.

Eric Pare: 31:49

So eight terabytes of data.

Kim Henry: 31:53

So new pieces will come out probably. We won't be back home before November, so nothing before that.

Eric Pare: 32:01

You saw a few. Actually we sent you a few. Oh yeah, yeah, a few work in progress.

Kim Henry: 32:06

Yeah, so yeah, but maybe just at large. Shoot out to the performance and dance community and the new neighborhood. So these are two communities that I'm involved in that both use the body as their medium of work. So yeah, a lot of amazing people.

NorCal Guy: 32:26

Well cool, Eric Kim, thank you for your time and thank you for coming on the show.

Kim Henry: 32:31

I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was such a pleasure. Thank you.

NorCal Guy: 32:35

Well, you have a good day and we'll talk soon.