NorCal and Shill

Funghibull - Collector

February 29, 2024 NorCal Guy Season 1 Episode 130
NorCal and Shill
Funghibull - Collector
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Venture into the kaleidoscopic world of crypto art as we sit down with the discerning Funghibull, whose journey from the sidelines to the center stage of the NFT market is nothing short of captivating. In this episode, we peel back the layers of Funghibull's experiences, from his initial skepticism to his astute investments, and the laugh-out-loud misadventure with an Ether Rock that could've been a gold mine. As the tapestry of tales unfolds, we underscore the inextricable link between community and success in this digital domain, while Funghibull teases us with the exciting prospects of Shillr's future projects, setting the stage for an intersection of art, innovation, and camaraderie at the much-anticipated NFT NYC.

Strap in for a heartfelt exploration of the intricacies of collecting crypto art where the interplay of emotional resonance and financial savvy takes center stage. This episode isn't just about the art—it's a tribute to the artists themselves and the supportive community that surrounds them, highlighting the necessity for a nurturing environment that fosters creativity and collaboration. We'll navigate the landscape of artist support, touching on the importance of profound connections with artwork, the freedom from the pressure to sell, and the shared mantra that real relationships triumph over transactional encounters in this digital expanse. So, tune in for an enriching discourse filled with genuine insights, laughter, and a unique blend of experiences that paint a vivid picture of the dynamic synergy between art, technology, and community.

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NorCal Guy:

Hey everyone welcome back to this episode of Noor Cal and Shill Collectors Vault. Today, we have Fungible joining us to dive into the mushrooming world of crypto art and investments. In this episode, we unearth Fungible's journey through the highs and lows of digital investments, including his biggest win and the learning curve of his silliest purchase. We peel back the layers on the importance of community, with Fungible emphasizing the value of Twitter's spaces for authentic connections, and discuss the multifaceted approach to art collecting that marries financial savvy with personal resonance. Plus, we get the scoop on what's next for Shiller as Fungible teases their upcoming media season, an innovative NFT backed art collecting experience and a buzz-worthy three-day event series at NFT NYC. Tune in as we share a genuine conversation on growth and gratitude in the dynamic world of crypto art. Stay with us for an episode that promises insightful shill without the fluff, right here on Noor Cal and Shill Collectors Vault. Everybody, please welcome Fungible. Hey Fungi, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

Funghibull:

I'm doing great, yeah, thank you so much for having me, man.

NorCal Guy:

Man, I'm glad we. You know it should have been a lot earlier. But you know, I just like get focused on like artists. And then I'm like, who am I going to have? I'm like, oh yeah, I got all these collectors I should have on here, that I actually chat with and I'm glad you can make it and thank you for coming on.

Funghibull:

Well, thanks, thanks for having me. I honestly the artists are more interesting, so I think I didn't. You know both they will be appreciative of that as well the other collectors and, and yeah, different builders and folks you've had on. But I'm grateful, grateful to be included and really appreciate the work you do both on this podcast and elsewhere. So stoked to chat man.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, man, I'm ready to get into it. So I know you've been in this game for a little while, this collector game. What were your first thoughts when you heard about NFTs or crypto art?

Funghibull:

Yeah, I think, like a lot of people, I was kind of like what the hell? What make it make sense? I had a time grappling with the right click, save, Quite, I don't know like pseudo dilemma or issue, and then I started to draw comparisons and started to think about you know, other areas of ownership and activity online yeah, ownership should exist and started to think like you know what this makes a lot of sense. And also like wherever people are going to want to spend money, there will be a market there, and the fundamentals of this and the way in which it could be changing economies whether they're creator economies or like macro economies are really compelling.

Funghibull:

And I was very lucky to have a few friends much smarter than myself, who were a lot earlier to NFTs, that were helping me kind of break down these walls of comprehension. So, yeah, but I think first I was like what the hell's going on? What the hell's going on here? And then quickly like I think there might be something to this and, yeah, eventually I have to get involved in some way. This is fascinating, yeah.

NorCal Guy:

Now, did you get involved in like late 2020, or was it early 21? It was late 2020.

Funghibull:

Yeah, a close friend of mine, alex Gosman, founder of NFTX, helped me pick up a couple of punks. That was my first like big bet on NFTs and I was just going to like chill, you know, I didn't expect them to get a lot of price action in the short term and then they did and I had that oh, my genius moment, which was really just me realizing like wow, I'm so lucky, thank God for good friends. And then started to get more deeply involved in like early 2021, like February-ish yeah.

NorCal Guy:

Were you part of the top shots thing or Totally?

Funghibull:

missed top shots. Yeah, I totally missed top shots. And I also missed Art Block Summer. I barely minted during that, luckily picked up a few pieces, but nothing that you know, no fedenses or ringers or anything like that.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, all right, all right, fair, fair. So did you collect art or anything else before getting into NFTs?

Funghibull:

I think, as a kid, you know, like a lot of others, I developed a pretty sick like Pokemon card collection and some other sports cards and I had a thing for like Hot Wheels and oh yeah, yeah, I would even like once we had like a computer and I was good at using it. I remember like I'm going to start making like folders for all of my favorite cars and I'm going to organize them and like find pictures on the internet and started to, yeah, just right click, save. I guess what was kind of like a vision board. You know, a kid is just like I want Right, cool, fast, expensive things in the future, but I'd say that that's probably about it. Yeah, it wasn't really into collecting art in any meaningful way A few prints here and there at like craft fairs or just from online marketplaces and stuff, but that was about it.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, All right, all right. So what are the best things about Web 3 today?

Funghibull:

I think it's still the people first and foremost. Like I think the concentration of deeply passionate, incredibly intelligent, creative and optimistic people with deep sets of skills is unparalleled.

Funghibull:

Like I, truly believe there is no other industry or area of focus that has as well rounded of a community of participants who are as capable and future forward thinking and who are also as fun to be around. So I'd say the people, first and foremost, and then, I think, also just the ways in which the space is slowly but surely maturing. I think I've seen a lot of companies rise up, whether they're great products or more community based. Seeing that happen in the art side of Web 3 has been really cool. Some artists and curator led initiatives or companies. I mean big shout out to click rate and the work you guys do, as well as some artists, collectives like Brito Dow and making it what Patrick Ammonon's doing yeah, just seeing these cultural machines kind of like take shape and do meaningful things has, yeah, is kind of one of the more exciting things for me these days.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, you yourselves are like focus on the people there. As Schiller, I mean all the time given shout outs and doing spaces for people. So I mean a big part of that. I mean you're helping foster that.

Funghibull:

Thanks, yeah, I like jokingly tweeted earlier like Shiller is my Roman Empire. It's like. That is like where so much of my focus is.

NorCal Guy:

And ultimately, where yeah like.

Funghibull:

A lot of the work I do goes towards and it's been really fun to build out and grow at a steady, programmed kind of organic pace. So that's been super rewarding and, yeah, very grateful for all the community support on that For sure.

NorCal Guy:

So where do you see digital art and NFTs in five years and do you have any concerns as it expands?

Funghibull:

Yeah, I mean that's a great question. I don't know if I'm smart enough to really comprehend where things will be in five years, but I'll try, I think I think, when it comes to looking ahead, I see, just in general, a world where its community members, on average, are having a greater and greater surplus of either time or liquid capital that can be expended freely or disposable income. I could say I think that where art collecting, for example, used to be something done by only the richest of the rich, in very close circles, I see this propagating to the average random person who is currently, you know, buying prints on Etsy and buying, you know, shower curtains of their favorite artists, like work on not artsy but society six or something. I see that coming on chain because it is just so much cooler. It's one of those things where crypto can both only crypto, I guess can support that those direct, frictionless payments and ways of supporting creators and provably knowing that you did indeed support the person who made it, rather than paying a massive fee to like a print on demand service who may or may not have just like ripped off that artist and, I think, having that concept become common knowledge and then having the back end infrastructure that abstracts away all of the clunky crypto payment UX and onboarding is just going to make that super ubiquitous where we'll use our bits and pieces of you know disposable income to, instead of buying, yeah, just random crap on the internet, actually supporting artists in a way that's much more equitable and aligned with the creator economy that we want to see, you know, thriving and flourishing.

Funghibull:

So I think that is, like, at a macro level, a trend that I'm very, very bullish on and very bullish for artists as well as for those that are supporting artists, whether they're brands, like recognizing that, hey, maybe working with an artist in a super equitable way is an awesome chance for us to, you know, exhibit our cultural relevance and awareness and have like a bit of a symbiotic relationship where artists are compensated but the brands benefit too, and I think that's fine and great. Or for patrons and collectors who are really showing their conviction in the artists who are here presently or soon to arrive, who share our excitement at a, you know, tokenized world of art. And, yeah, I'm super excited for that and I think the worries less of I don't have a lot of. I mean like one thing I've been thinking about recently that I think, is just going to be really hard to work against or, you know, negate in any way, is that the things that we love and benefit from the most about. You know, blockchain enabled tech and currency or wealth or asset transfer is that they are permissionless and frictionless and it runs 24 seven and that's great. It feels like you know it should. You know, like I should be able to transfer anything that I own whenever I want to whoever I want, and have that kind of free market be expressed in the rails wherein it lives, like that just is very logical. But and then I, we benefit and artists benefit from that when you are able to directly support a creator, and then I think where it gets really challenging is just the exact same side of things, when people can buy and sell as freely as they want something that you put your heart and soul into.

Funghibull:

I think it's there's that's just always going to be really difficult to manage, where an artist or creator of some kind releases work into the world and just sees it floored, you know, and with the royalties negated, like I think that that is one way or one example where, like emotionally, it might be easier for a gallery to just take care of that, for you not to be super aware where your heart is or who is enjoying it, because you don't know that some, you know, quote unquote patron or lifetime supporter of the arts just sold for half what they paid you for it and is moving on to other things.

Funghibull:

So I think that's like just a really tricky thing. Like we want, you know, all kinds of asset transfer and ownership to be 24, seven, frictionless, permissionless, but then we have to deal with the results of that or the environment that that creates, and I think that's just always going to be hard. So I think it's going to take a while for people, especially new coming artists, to attune themselves to that and build up that degree of resilience which I'm like very confident they will, because artists I think is even I both know are like the most resilient human beings on the planet probably, but it still is a piece of themselves and I yeah, my heart always goes, goes out to the creators of work that you see getting maybe mistreated, maybe, if I could use that word Right right.

NorCal Guy:

So I'm curious what makes you decide to buy a piece, like what. It pushes you over the edge, like, okay, I need to go get that piece. Do you take, do sit with it for a little bit, or is it like talking with the artist, getting to know them first? Or sometimes just a, I need that.

Funghibull:

Yeah, it's a good question and, like I think, it's, often has to come from a place of I am aware of this person. I've been developing some context of who they are. You know, there's a part of my mind that is now dedicated to who I understand that person to be and what their body of work is, just because I want to know that I'm not buying something or collecting something totally speculatively and that I feel like I have a good sense of, you know, why somebody is doing something, whether or not that's making art or releasing a project or whatever it may be. I have a limited amount of capital and I have to spend it wisely if I want to be, you know, efficient, both in terms of supporting the quote unquote, right people, as my mind tries to see fit, as well as making, like you know, reasonable financial decisions, right. So I would say it's probably on a sliding scale of, like you know, no one ever wants to talk about the money side of things, but if, like, if something is like, if I can buy something without worrying about the price at all, like it, whatever it's listed, it doesn't register as a serious expense for me or expenditure for me, then, like, the other things aren't quite as important.

Funghibull:

I think, in terms of like, I don't have to like vibe or fact check or whatever like I don't not that I'm like you know, like doing like detective work or anything but like I don't necessarily need to have developed like a thesis on like I think this is why this person makes art and like I think this is kind of what they're doing. That, in terms of both, you know they're inner workings and the world as they see it, and I don't necessarily need to have that degree of connection or perceived understanding. If I'm just like this is dope and I can easily afford it and never sell it, cool Like. That's all I need to know. And when it's a larger like, when the price is higher and isn't something that I can just like hit you know, buy or collect like multiple times a day on without thinking about how that affects me, I do have to like really sit with it. It's pretty rare that I'll just collect something as soon as it pops up, right, it's usually.

Funghibull:

I've gotten to know that artists, either directly or just having you know, follow them. For ages. I've been waiting for the right piece, you know right in terms of me and what resonates. And I have to know that, yeah, I am very comfortable spending this amount of money and potentially never selling, and realistically never selling is kind of always the way to plan. It is like I've acquired this, I have to be okay with never letting it go, and and then if it's much more than that, then I have to have, like I'd be lying if I said I wasn't contemplating, like okay, what is like my conviction in this?

Funghibull:

in this artist like long term, like do I feel like there may or may not be a financial upside?

Funghibull:

in the next X, you know years, whatever. But the latter is like rarely the case, like only occasionally, that I'll spend amounts that really warrant that kind of internal dialogue, and often it's because I've seen a piece and then, even after I stopped looking at it, I keep thinking about it. I'm just walking and I'm like, oh, maybe this is what they were saying. Or, man, I have to pull out my phone or I have to look at it again, I have to go look back through their other work, or I have, to like, message them and ask is like I'm just so goddamn curious now, and it's when that's happening and I am resonating deeply enough that I'm like, okay, like yes, like I will absolutely try and pick this up, yeah.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, that makes sense. I feel that a lot. I feel that would. What would you like to see more of in this crypto art space?

Funghibull:

I have a question. Like a lot of things. Man, like I'm like a lot of things. It's got so many good parts to it. Has a lot of like not great parts to it. Some of the things that I'd love to see more of and that's definitely the more positive way to speak about it is I'd love to see more encouraged experimentation.

Funghibull:

And I'd love to see people putting less pressure on artists to quote unquote deliver. Obviously, there's times in which promises get made or plans get published and, like anything, we should try, and you know, hold people to their word, but also show compassion when their circumstance changes. And I think, just having spoken with and connected with so many artists luckily over the past few years, it's just so abundantly clear how much pressure they are each putting on themselves.

Funghibull:

And it's immense, like the world is putting on so much pressure, typically first telling them don't do this, and yet they do. And then, once they're starting to find a community that supports them, and all of these technological devices and tools, whether it's smart contracts or dynamic, you know, dynamic art techniques or new mediums that they can express themselves in in you know, digitally. I think just adding levels of pressure is not good. So I'd love to see more experimentation supported and I'd love to just see more artists doing who feel because I think many do want to, I think many want to try putting out additions or pieces on other chains, but they will say in private, like I don't want to get, you know, viewed as being opportunistic and or I don't, you know, want to want people to think I'm just like jumping on the next thing and I'm going to keep doing that. And I think you know you do have to develop a sense of what is like right for yourself and you have to act in accordance with your understanding of that. But I think there's just a lot of fear behind a lot of this hesitation. And, yeah, I, it's just a cool thing when you see artists behaving and operating freely. I think that's when it starts, you start speed running the knowledge acquisition or skill acquisition of knowing when it is the right thing for you through, you know, figuring out what's the wrong thing and and what felt good, and not in a wow, so much dopamine kind of way, but in a like very heart-centered like oh, I feel much freer for having done that and yeah, and I think that's like the main.

Funghibull:

There's lots of other things like I'd also love to see more artists getting together and Just supplying a bit of organization Into doing things, whether that's putting on exhibitions, raising money for, you know, relevant causes, whether that's supporting themselves or, you know, doing something like bringing other artists out to conferences or or anything like that. I would love to see more organized groups that they find. There one person who was like hey, I wrote down the plan and the notes and, oh, I'll set up the nonprofit and I'll do, I'll set up the multi-sig, and like I'd like to see more of that. I feel like I've only gone to know, incidentally at least like a very small handful of collective such as that and I feel like there's there's a ton of Value to be both generated and captured in equitable ways. So, right, yeah, those are. Those are my top answers, I think I.

NorCal Guy:

Like it. Do you have a piece of advice or a mantra that you kind of live by? Go by that like in your head.

Funghibull:

That's a good question, probably, not to say something that sounds too cringe and, yeah, like attending to you too profound or anything. I'd say, like you know, connect people because you want to, not because you want something. I think the best friendships, the best things that have happened to me in this space have just come from a pure, pure sense of curiosity, for wanting to better understand people, or just know them, or having some inkling Selfish, even that, like I think my life might be better for knowing this person. And yeah, I think that it's Much too easy To, or far too easy to, operate Transactionally in a space that is, so you know, heavily predicated upon transactions, whether they're on chain or whatever. And I think we're in a very rare Window of time where we're able to connect pretty much anyone encrypted or web 3, and that's to be, you know, honored, I think, for yourself as well as for the window of opportunity for all of us that it presents.

Funghibull:

And, yeah, I would say, yeah, connect because you want to and Also think like big. I mean, there's there's a lot of, there's a lot of people wanting to build things, there's a lot of people with very, you know, in meshed ideas of what would be a great feature tool product, collective publication, content series and I think that you know it gets really hard when we try and do it ourselves and also it doesn't go very far when we think too small. I think having those unattainable goals is super helpful and then finding the people that you know Naturally vibe with whatever it is you're trying to do or put out. So I don't think I have like a single thing, it's really just Be the vibes. You want to see more of the world's like sure, whether that's supporting others for the sake of it or just sharing more of who you are, in hopes that Maybe someone else does too and maybe someone resonates with you and you get to be friends. Yeah, I think some one of those three is maybe the things I think of the most.

NorCal Guy:

I like it. So now kind of changing into some more fun, light-hearted Questions, let's do it. What is your favorite movie quote?

Funghibull:

Oh, the one that comes top in mind is a is a fun one, and I might be paraphrasing, but this is from the movie waking life, where one of the characters says on quiet nights of the self, I go salsa dancing with my emotions. And I don't know what it is about that, but I saw it when I was 13 and I have a stop thinking like it's always. It's always just taking up space and as someone who's like a little insular and really enjoys time alone just thinking and walking, yeah, that one hits.

NorCal Guy:

Sweet, that's solid. What is the best thing and the silliest thing you've spent money on?

Funghibull:

Hmm, best thing I've spent money on In this space Is probably been investing in show that has been there. You know there's a bunch of artists that I felt really great for having supported and art that I'm like super grateful and and what you to now own. Other things that have involved like trades, which cool, but I'd say the most rewarding has been like investing in what we're building at Schiller and that, yeah, that's probably my top choice. Silliest thing One of the janky ether rocks man I I remember I got a phone call one night and someone was like hey, okay, so you know ether rocks. There's actually a version of them that's two days older and we've just found a way to buy them. They're currently all listed for like 20 ETH.

Funghibull:

This is when ETH was like $4,000. If you want one you have to get them now. But the problem in the contract is that unless you instantly List the price for higher than what you bought it, it will revert back and be available as a buy now for the price that you paid for it. It was like a contract bug. So I was like just smashing fast gas and battling between, like Gary V 888 and a bunch of like I don't know much bigger traders and collectors than me, and I managed to get one of these, but I didn't know if I had to list it in Kauai or in ETH, because you had to do it at the contractor like the janky UI level on the website. So I think I listed it for like eight billion ETH or something like that, thinking I was doing in Guay and yeah, like didn't end up turning a profit on that, but that was probably the stupidest thing I bought.

Funghibull:

And yeah, it was one of those like peak euphoria season of the 2021 bull run fever dream moments where you're like guys, gary V is trying to buy. We need to like eat your time as now or whatever. And if I had just sold it five minutes later, I could have like five X my money. But I got greedy, held, waited two weeks and then eventually listed it and sold it like for a little less than what I paid for. And then, within five minutes, sotheby is announced they would be auctioning one of these like earlier ETH rocks Like a week later, and then one instantly sold for double what I had sold mine. So I was like, god damn it. Stupid, stupid moves, stupid games, stupid prizes.

NorCal Guy:

Oh man, solid, that's a good story, man.

Funghibull:

Yeah, it was. It was fun, for sure. Not not smart, but fun.

NorCal Guy:

Man. So this one's a little bit harder. But if you could commission a piece and have two artists collaborate on it, which two artists would it be?

Funghibull:

That's a really good question. I don't know how this would come into existence, but I would probably say Joe P's and Summer Wagner. I don't know what it would look like, but that is what I would want, all right.

NorCal Guy:

Have to make it happen now.

Funghibull:

Yeah, setting the attention out there. Joe or Summer, five of you hear this and want to make my dreams come true. I'd be happy even to just right click, save or enjoy virtually, but my wallet address is publicly available too.

NorCal Guy:

What is your favorite way to connect with new people in the space?

Funghibull:

I probably say on spaces honestly yeah, I think I like it's very like chronically online of me to say, but IRL, like when we go to conferences and events and things, they're so busy and so packed and there's so many people that I never would have imagined but I'm now lucky enough to have connected with and be excited to see that.

Funghibull:

It's always a struggle just to fit in the people that I feel like I could comfortably call my friends already. So the opportunity to connect, the opportunities to connect with people I don't have a relationship with yet, or maybe fewer and far between, at something like NFT, NYC or Art Basel or something. So I think a really nice way to get a sense of someone and connect with them is just talking on a Twitter space or X space where you can get a sense of their tone. It's easier to like vibe, check and understand and probe and ask questions, where DMs are a minefield for me. I rarely see stuff that I should and comments get lost and yeah, I would say like even just having like a five minute conversation, even if it's not me on a stage, just me getting to listen to someone from the audience, that's one of my favorite ways, like either talking directly or just listening to what they have to say. Yeah, nice.

NorCal Guy:

Do you have any hot takes?

Funghibull:

I feel like one hot take is that I mean, I'm not a like, I'm not a maximalist, but anything. So any hot take I have, I usually have the hot take on the other side of the equation too. So you know, one example would be like collectors in Web three should stop trying to assert their knowledge over what artists shouldn't or shouldn't do Like. It's a bad look, it's rarely being requested and you may not actually know anything about that person, what they want to do or or about art in general and maybe right, just been obsessed for a few months. And even if you do like, there's a chance that by just asserting that take in an unprompted, unprompted way, you are diminishing the likelihood of someone receiving it positively. So collectors should stop telling artists what to do. On the other hand, I often see takes from artists that are like don't ever like, let a you know collector or anyone tell you how to market your artwork or yourself, and I don't agree with that either, because a lot of the people that are on the collecting side of things come from like business or entrepreneurship or industry of some kind, often related to tech. There may be viewing. You know online presence and leverage them. You know the use of social media in a more analytical way and they're also doing a lot of reflecting on how they're acquiring or stumbling upon new artists, and I think to discount the knowledge or opinions of others is maybe not the best. Yeah, yeah, and so I think it's all about you know the, the medium or intentions or arena wherein the message is shared or received from the artist side. So I think, yeah, those are my two like hot takes that maybe create one lukewarm take.

Funghibull:

And then I think another thing like is that people should probably learn the fucking tech. Like. I think that's something that is majorly slept on in this space, whether it's from, like you know, early entrance who are just doing a little degenerate trading, or from artists who have maybe been around a long time but the only functions they ever really had to master or like tasks was like minting artwork and to go beyond that felt extra and maybe just totally seemed like unnecessary. I think learning things like proper security, also learning like, hey, what is DeFi, what is a smart contract? Like, what other token standards are there and are there any that might make sense as like vehicles for me to deepen both my creative expression as well as express my understanding of the medium wherein I'm releasing work. I think those, those things, can go a really long way.

Funghibull:

It takes like there's not that many artists that like deeply understand or even like yeah, let me say deeply understand like smart contracts and kind of like the underlying tech culture, or like CT, crypto, twitter culture, as well as mastering Thronecraft, and I think those that do continue to seek knowledge on those things often seem to do quite well and find ways to like express themselves in forms that resonate with collectors and people who, like deeply value just the fact that we're doing this on Ethereum or Solana or wherever else, and that the tech is important within this industry. Yeah, it's a. Those are.

Funghibull:

Those are my, my wild takes not good with hot takes, like anytime there's drama. I'm just like my life will be better if I just don't care and for sure and like avoid getting into this like cesspool of the Twitter debate. Right, that's true, yeah, so I don't know, I wish I thought I probably do have some like none that I think are that good or productive.

NorCal Guy:

So last question You've mentioned Shiller a few times. Tell us in the audience about Shiller, what you do there and any other projects you might be having or coming up.

Funghibull:

Thanks, yeah. So Shiller started as a marketing and consulting company, really catering towards transparency, hence the name. We wanted to work with great people and we've done that for a few years. We've worked with over 35 companies across verticals in the space, touched on pretty much every domain of on-chain activity or community that might exist, and we originally wanted to start by working with artists, realized it's kind of tough to do in an equitable and ethical way, so let's just see if we can support artists for free in other ways. So we started that by exhibiting the works of artists on these mobile galleries around NFT NYC and Art Basel, miami. To date we've exhibited about 800 artists so far at events like these.

Funghibull:

We weaned into media last year, launching our first kind of NFT sales, have done a bunch of fun art commissions and have five weekly spaces series covering art, tech, culture and, as well as offering two hours of free consulting for artists or developers or founders every Wednesday, alongside a couple of podcasts we put out, all headed up by our awesome director of media, buna, and assisted by our amazing creative director, connor, and our goal really for Schiller is to be a source of permaculture in the space, a source of support for what we want to see more of. We don't typically talk about that. Our tongue-in-cheek role since starting Schiller was we will not shill Schiller it unless asked, hence we talking about it. But yeah, I think this year we're going to start talking about it a little bit more because there's not a lot of others doing the same thing and we're super proud of what we're doing.

Funghibull:

So the most pressing like new things to come out is we will be rolling out a new season of Schiller Media, which is kind of an NFT-backed art collecting experience for our community members to support us, however they can, and for us to commission great artworks and put on some exhibitions for artists in real space and have just some fantastic content that celebrates those that are making the space special as it is, so founders, artists, collectors and so forth. And we'll also be putting on a three-day event series at NFTNYC. So I'm really excited about that. It's the first time we've fully leaned into, you know, irl events beyond, you know single night dinners and kind of parties and stuff. So really stoked about that. And yeah, just working with some badass people doing cool things in Web 3, that we're super grateful to have a board. But yeah, thanks so much for asking.

NorCal Guy:

Yeah, man, well, fungi, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show today and so much for your time, and I really appreciate all you do in the space and I actually can't wait to hang out and see you in. Was that about a month from now?

Funghibull:

Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for having me on and for all you do. I wish this hologram punk of mine could show when I'm smiling, because definitely blushing and smiling at the braids. But yeah, really grateful for everything you do in this space and just grateful to have a chance to come on and chat with you and Stoke to Vibe, whether that's in Denver or New York, while we're looking forward to it.

NorCal Guy:

Sounds good, man, we take care yeah you too. Bye.

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