Parin - Artist

What if you could explore the world of digital art through the eyes of an artist who has lived on three continents and has a passion for both physics and art? On this episode of the NorCal and Shill Podcast, we sit down with Parin, a Tehran-born artist whose journey into the digital art and NFT space is as fascinating as it is inspiring. From her childhood dream of becoming an astronaut to her whimsical blend of animals she identifies with, Parin offers a unique perspective on life and art. We discuss her love for Italy and the Netherlands and the vibrant Los Angeles community she’s excited to reconnect with.

Discover the profound sense of community within Web3 as Parin shares her transition from a background in physics and mathematics to becoming a key player in the digital art world. We address critical concerns about the future of digital art and NFTs, including the potential overshadowing by other Web3 elements and the risk of cultural dilution with mass adoption. Parin makes a compelling case for recognizing emerging artists from diverse global backgrounds, emphasizing the need to spotlight talent beyond Western countries. Listen as we delve into the intrinsic value of 1 ETH in the NFT marketplace and the importance of maintaining low supply to preserve exclusivity and value.

In a snapshot of identity and creativity, we explore the hybrid characteristics of a tiger, polar bear, and penguin that Parin identifies with, symbolizing the complexity of human nature. A heartfelt tribute to Rumi's wisdom on living in the present moment and fun anecdotes such as purchasing an ET mask for Halloween paint a vivid picture of her personality. The episode wraps up with exciting news about Parin’s personal projects, including hand-drawn animations and a significant move back to Los Angeles, marking a new chapter filled with creative endeavors and community impact. Tune in to be inspired by Parin’s journey and learn how art and technology can make a difference in our world.

https://x.com/ParinHeidari

Chapters

• 0:01 NFTs and Art
• 4:47 Collecting Art and NFTs in Web3
• 17:16 Personal Reflections and Connections
• 29:43 Artistic Background and Future Projects

Transcript

NorCal Guy: 0:01

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NorCal Guy: 0:38

Today we have a great guest, perrin, joining us to share her fascinating journey and deep insights into the world of digital art. Perrin emphasizes the constant value of her work in Ethereum, keeping it exclusive with limited editions. Perrin lives in the present and strives to make a positive impact through her art. Having lived on three continents, she brings a unique global perspective. In this episode, perrin speaks about her love for Italy and the Netherlands and describes a whimsical blend of animals she identifies with. She also recounts life-changing travels, fun anecdotes like scaring friends with an ET mask and her childhood dream of becoming an astronaut. Passionate about connecting with others, perrin frequently uses Twitter and Instagram to explore and share art. Listen in as Perrin talks about the upcoming projects, future moves and her excitement for the vibrant Los Angeles community. This episode is packed with inspiration, laughter and profound wisdom about the evolving NFT space. Everybody, please welcome, perrin. Hey, perrin, welcome to the podcast. Happy to have you here today.

Parin: 1:59

I'm super excited to be here. I'm doing great. I have been looking forward to this day since, I think, weeks ago now. Yeah, I'm doing great here in la sunny, windy, foggy la all good here.

NorCal Guy: 2:14

It's nice weather all the time down there. Oh, it's good up here. Um, in northern california, I don't even it's 81 outside is what it looks like, so I can't. I don't believe that I feel like it's 81 outside is what it looks like, so I don't believe that. I feel like it's probably hotter outside right now. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's hotter, but yeah, day is nice, um, and I don't know just a nice day. Gonna go home after this, hang out with the kids, and you know just have a good time nice hang out with the kids and and.

Parin: 2:46

Uh, you know, just have a good time nice so what were your first thoughts when you heard about nfts? So I heard about nfts from my cartoon teacher when I was 10. I used to go to this house of cartoon. It's a place in Tehran that they teach you how to draw a cartoon and caricature and animation. And my dear teacher, who have always been one of my mentors since I was 10, told me about NFTs. He works at Cartoon Network and a lot of like cool places in in the states and he came back to Tehran. I was there during COVID and he came back to Tehran. I was there during COVID and he just told me about NFTs over a coffee like 10 minutes coffee that we had at a coffee shop and then he left and he was like, yeah, nfts is very cool, it's good for you because it's a combination of technology and art and money and you love that. You love like technology part of that. You're an artist, obviously, like money is involved as well. So just read about it.

Parin: 3:53

So, right away I googled nfts. I couldn't really understand much about what nfts were. There were a lot of words that I didn't have, I didn't know anything about them and first thing that I realized was clubhouse. So this is for march 2021. I joined Clubhouse immediately and on the same day that my teacher told me about the NFTs, I was already on Clubhouse rooms, I think for at least 10 hours, and the time difference between Iran and LA, or like PSD time, was 12 hours, so it was my night, whereas everybody was here in the morning, and I just fell in love with NFTs immediately because of the community. So my first thought about NFTs was a lot of cool people that they want to change the world with their art, with their technology and like visions, so it was like something very new to me. I just loved it right away, right away.

NorCal Guy: 4:46

Nice, that's really cool. So did you collect art or anything before you got into this crypto space?

Parin: 4:58

and I was born in Tehran and there I studied physics, mathematics, wanted to be an astronaut, but also loved art.

Parin: 5:08

Since I remember, I think all kids that I know they paint, they love art, but some of them become artists.

Parin: 5:21

My dream had always been to become an artist as a kid and then when I grew up again still like when I was was studying science I still wanted to be a full-time artist and because of that I got to know a lot of artists around me, thanks to my father and my parents. Both were very involved in like art scene and architecture scene, mainly in in Iran, and my father brought me to so many exhibitions back into and sometimes with my pocket money, I could like collect some art from same age artists like 15 years old, 14 years old. It wasn't, it was never something expensive, it was just like, oh, collecting art. So I felt it way before NFTs, how incredible it felt to collect art from like fellow artists and again, I wasn't an artist, they were artists and I was like, let's, let's support them and this is such a good feeling. So, yeah, it started, I think, when I was 13, back in tehran oh man, that's really cool.

NorCal Guy: 6:16

So what? What are the best things about web3 today?

Parin: 6:22

oh, a lot of things. Oh my god, it's such a hard question to answer. I think first thing that comes to my mind is community, web3, community. People say that in all different panels. I know a lot of Web2. People are tired of hearing that, but it's true. Web3, community and how people want to create some, something together, something meaningful together, meaningful connections I think that's the best thing of web3 yeah, no, I I agree, the the people definitely make it a nice and fun place to be yeah so where do you see the digital art and NFTs in five years and do you have any concerns as it expands?

Parin: 7:11

Wow, yeah, I do have concerns. So first to answer the first part. I think the future of digital art and NFT is really bright. That's how I look at it. There's so much innovation that we see every day in this space and it's going to even be much more than what it is currently, in my opinion. I hope to see more art in this space and that's honestly one of my concerns because, mainly when I open Twitter every day or X, I'm never going to call it X. When I open Twitter every day or X, I'm never going to call it X, but I open Twitter Same.

Parin: 7:49

Most of the things that they make, like the headlines are I can't say all of them, but mostly are not necessarily art. It could be meme coins or something connected to the culture of Web3, but it's not necessarily art. I don't say I don't like that. I love that part of the culture of Web3 as well, but I really want to see more art in the future than what it is currently, and one of my concerns is to see less attention to art than what it is currently, because when money is involved, a lot of other things that like that art is involved as well, like, again, meme coins and so many things that god knows how they get spotlight. So that's one of my concerns.

Parin: 8:37

And also another thing is when it goes to um how you call it like, like mass adoption. When it happens, I'm a little bit afraid of taking away this culture that we have created together in the past three years. I feel like the culture is very new, it's very special, the culture of Web3. And one of my concerns is when the mass adoption happens like this culture fades away and good or bad, this is the culture of web3, and one of my concerns is when the mass adoption happens like this culture fades away and good or bad, this is the culture of web3 and I love it. So, yeah, that's, that's my only concern does.

NorCal Guy: 9:15

Oh, what would you like to see more of in the nft space?

Parin: 9:21

um, I would love to see more spotlight, like giving more spotlight to artists who deserve it and the ones that are not necessarily big artists. More emerging artists from everywhere in the world, not only from the States or some European countries, like everywhere in the world, and I don't see that much. Yeah, I do see, like very, very few Middle Easterns, african, like some different countries, but majority of spotlight is always to, like Western countries, americans, europeans and I want to see more other countries to receive this spotlight. And also what we are doing, like at Makerspace, is to work on these emerging artists that not too many people know yet, but they will be big artists soon. So I would love to see other platforms to do the same, other collectors do the same and other artists also support the other artists that are not big yet. This is what I would love to see more.

NorCal Guy: 10:21

Yeah, so does 1E equal equal one ETH.

Parin: 10:27

Yes, it does. Oh my God, I can talk about it for like an hour. I wish it was in Persian because it was much more easy. But every time that I want to price my work, I never think about it in US dollars, or before, when I was in Italy, I never thought about it in euros ever. It's always like 0.2 ETH, 0.5 ETH. It's always in ETH, so it doesn't matter how much ETH is going to be late, like in a few years, in dollars. If my art is like this, if the floor price is 1 ETH, it's going to be 1 ETH, it doesn't matter how much it is in dollars. So yeah, for me, one ETH is always one ETH, all right Does supply matter.

Parin: 11:14

Yes, yeah, I would say supply matters significantly. For sure, maintaining low supply, even with addition, is the strategy that I personally prefer. This approach I think it helps preserve the exclusivity and value of my work. That's how I look at it, and I like my collectors to feel they have something special. I don't want them to see the same work that they collect from me everywhere. Nothing against that strategy, but that's not mine.

Parin: 11:52

So even, uh, when I have like limited editions I mean when I have editions, I try to have it limited. Or if it's like unlimited editions, I try to have um have it like timed edition, like three days, four days. I don't have a lot of supplies out there, so I did that strategy also. I use that strategy also in my merch. For example, when I have hats, I draw them one-on-one and there are like 20 of them, that's it. So 20 different one-on-ones from the same collections. My t-shirts are only 50 and that's it. I don't want to even have it for my merch ever. Because, again, when I was a collector, when I was a collector before um, I always wanted to collect from artists that I can't see their work everywhere like. I wanted to feel that I have something like more special. So yeah, that's, that's how I look at it.

NorCal Guy: 12:49

All right, all right, how would you do additions and one-on-ones, and how, how would you like? How do you make them work together?

Parin: 12:59

I think both of them are good to have. One-on-ones have different value. The way that I look at it is like different value because it's more rare. It's much more rare because there's only one of that and editions help collectors to be onboarded and editions help other collectors that are not necessarily as rich collect artist work.

Parin: 13:27

So I also like editions but, for example, I have my animations as one of ones, more hand-drawn work as one of ones, and the ones that I can't say I spent less time because it doesn't really matter, like some of my line drawings I spent five seconds on them, but I feel like the value is it doesn't matter, like how much time you spend on that, but I want to have like the ones that in general are less special to me as additions, because I feel like if I spent so much thought and hours and everything on one piece of art, I don't want it to be everywhere.

Parin: 14:04

On one piece of art. I don't want it to be everywhere and I want that one person to resonate with collect that, whereas like the less I can't say like less special because now that I'm thinking about that, every art is special. But editions the way that I look at editions is mainly to have more collectors that are not necessarily comfortable with like paying much for one-on-one so that I can onboard them Right, right, yeah, both of them are very important to have.

NorCal Guy: 14:31

What is the best advice you've been given, or do you have like a mantra you kind of have going in your head?

Parin: 14:39

Yeah, actually, every day there is one. It's not a mantra, I don't know how to say what it is. It's from Zoroastrian faith, which is like the very first religion in the world, which is from Persia, and it's all about nature being a good person. So I was born in a country that a lot of people there believe in Zoroastrian, and that's like the real religion of Persians. I heard these three phrases since I was a kid, which is good thoughts, good words and good deeds, and this has always been with me. Every day that I wake up, I think about good things, I try to use good words and I try to help someone. Good deeds and that has been something that I keep telling myself every day, from morning to night. That that's, that's my mantra yeah, no, I love that.

NorCal Guy: 15:36

It's a very good, very good one. So if you could live or move anywhere, where would you live and why?

Parin: 15:46

As someone who has lived in five countries so far and three continents, it's not easy to answer. Obviously, I love my country. Iran has been always on the top of the list of where I want to live, but because of the current situation I can't really think about going back there. I lived in Italy for almost 15 years and three years in the Netherlands Amsterdam these two countries, they have a really special place in my heart. If I want to only enjoy life and I don't want to work, I would go back to Italy for sure.

Parin: 16:25

To only enjoy life and I don't want to work. I would go back to Italy for sure, because you just want to eat good food, have fun and enjoy your life, whereas if I want to work and have a great balance of work and life, I would move to the Netherlands for sure. Netherlands, I love it because I learned a lot about its people to be very easygoing, to never complain about anything. Netherlands is a cold country. It always rains and people have fun, they don't care and they have a great work, life balance. Great work, life like eight hours work, eight hours of sleep, eight hours Fine, absolute fine. Like they go to concerts, festivals, everything that you can even imagine like everything, it's just there. So to answer your question with one word is Amsterdam. I would go back to Amsterdam.

NorCal Guy: 17:13

All right, all right, I like it. So if you were an animal, what would you be and why?

Parin: 17:22

I would be a hybrid of a tiger, polar bear and a penguin oh, that's a.

Parin: 17:28

It's interesting combo so I was born in tiger's year and I think I do have a lot of tiger's personality tempestuous, which I don't know how to pronounce it, I tried. Yet calm, that's me. I'm like, very calm as well, but also not really. I'm very courageous in the face of danger, but also soft in mysterious, unexpected places. I'm quite confident, I love adventure and I'm addicted to excitement and challenges. So I think that's tiger rather than polar bear and penguin, but a part of me is polar animal.

NorCal Guy: 18:12

So, yeah, all right, that hybrid, yeah uh, do you have a favorite movie quote or song lyric?

Parin: 18:23

I do have a lot of favorite quotes and song lyrics, but my favorite favorite poem, I would say, is from Rumi. Rumi or Molana, we call him Molana back in Iran. This quote I heard that in a lot of movies as well. That's why I chose this now to answer your question Don't make yourself miserable with what is to come or not to come. It means that just focus on present. This is my all-time favorite quote.

Parin: 18:57

And well, rumi is a great philosopher and poet. I learned a lot. I'm still learning a lot from him, but this specific coach, for me, changed my life, because we always either are afraid of the future that hasn't come yet, or we always think about the things that went wrong in the past. But if you think about just now, present, none of this matter anymore. So this is my daily practice not to think about the future and not to think about the past, what went wrong or what I didn't like about in the past, and just focus on now. That's my favorite, I would say, poem. But I love the Beatles, all of their lyrics. I'm a very old soul and my favorite movie coat is from et oh, okay, yeah, the et phone home because I've been abroad for so many years right and I always feel like, like that's my home, far from here. So I love et very much. That's that very much. That's not a quote, it's just like, but yeah, mainly the quote is homies.

NorCal Guy: 20:05

All right, I like it. So what is the best thing and the silliest thing that you have spent money on?

Parin: 20:14

Wow. Best thing for sure are any tickets that are bought for trips and concerts Anything, okay. I love music and I love traveling. So each trip that I've ever done in my life, they changed my life, some of them significantly, like the one that I moved to Italy, but the other ones as well, they taught me a lot of things. So I would say the best thing was my ticket to Italy in 2010. And the silliest thing is is much more recent, which is ET mask for Halloween last year. So it was a Halloween party. All ships actually had that party in Brooklyn and I dressed as an astronaut with ET mask and I scared everyone at New York subways. So that was the silliest thing.

NorCal Guy: 21:12

Nice, nice. So this one's a little tough. If you could commission a piece and have two artists collaborate on it, which two artists would it be?

Parin: 21:26

Oh my God, can they be dead artists, or do they have to be alive?

NorCal Guy: 21:30

Sure, yeah, yeah, we can do dead or alive.

Parin: 21:33

Okay, I would love to see Jean Dubuffet work with Frank Lloyd Wright. Wellight. Well, frank lloyd wright is an architect. Can I use architecture sure?

NorCal Guy: 21:48

I don't know.

Parin: 21:49

Yeah, I mean, sounds like an interesting combo I would love to see how jean de bouffet, who always destructs, forms and creates something that is not necessarily like linear, with frank flutright that does everything like very cubicle. I would love to see them work together to see, yeah, how, how they're gonna make a house together what is one interesting fact about you that people might not be aware of?

Parin: 22:26

Can I say two things? Yeah, so I had two very big dreams, that one of them came true so I can talk about that as the interesting fact that so many people don't know about and the other dream did not come true. So two dreams were either to be an astronaut or to change the world. So guess which one came true? I'm not an astronaut, but I could help so many people back in Iran, which is a little step in changing the world. That's something that a lot of people don't know about me.

Parin: 23:06

When NFC started, two things happened in my life. One was I could finally be a full-time artist, and the second one was to be able to help a lot of people in need back home in small villages or small or smaller towns in Iran. And that has been always my biggest dream, because I lived in this huge city called Tehran, which is like Paris, like New York, is like 20 million people live there, almost People have everything they need, whereas in the same country there are a lot of villages that they don't even have a school, they don't have potable water, and it's only like five hours from my city. So seeing that since I was a kid was extremely heartbreaking and I knew I couldn't do much as a kid but my parents and I we try to like donate stuff, like every month. It's a big part of Iranian culture to donate stuff or money to people in need. So after my big sales in the NFTs, I had a lot of money that I never had before. Like I never had that amount of money. And I knew an NGO back in Iran that they used to travel to smaller villages that are in the border of Iran and Iraq or Iran and Afghanistan, and a lot of people there are like not healthy. There are a lot of drug dealers, unfortunately there.

Parin: 24:30

So I told them I was like I have this money and I want to build something. What are you working on? So they told me they were working on building a hospital, many clinics, schools and to renovate a lot of houses that they were completely destroyed due to earthquakes or floods or everything. So that is something that not too many people know about me and I didn't really want to talk about it till actually, monster Mike, he asked me to talk about it because he was like you've done all of that and people should know it.

Parin: 25:06

So I'm talking about it right now. They invited me to UN almost 10 months ago to talk about it as well, how art can change people's lives, and that was one of the sweetest days of my life to just talk about what I was capable of doing, thanks to the technology and art and the NFTs, to help more than 3000 people to have food there, to have potable water, to be able to go to a hospital and for the kids to go to school. So this all came with yeah, with the NFT sales. I'm very proud of that.

NorCal Guy: 25:42

Yeah, that's amazing. I love that Monster. Mike's a good guy.

Parin: 25:47

Thank you, yeah, he said hi. He says hi. That's amazing.

NorCal Guy: 26:00

Well, I feel like you already kind of talked about this maybe, but what is your favorite way to connect with new people in the space?

Parin: 26:08

A big portion of my days usually is on Twitter, scrolling Twitter. I muted a lot of accounts that I don't want to. I don't think we can publish that. I muted a lot of people on Twitter Because it was a lot of drama and I think the algorithm on my Twitter knows that I'm not looking for those tweets and it's more about art. So a lot of new art every day appear on my timeline.

Parin: 26:37

So a big part of my job at Makerspace is also to curate and to have a good eye for new artists. I just scroll down Twitter, I go to the artist profile that I like and I actually scroll down to see if they retweeted something, because I like their art, I like their taste and that is a great way to also find new artists thanks to the ones that I just discovered. And if I really like someone's art, I DM them because as an artist, I love hearing people's thoughts about my art or feedback or anything that it just comes to their mind. So I DM the artist and a lot of friendship happened that way, a lot of curation happened that way. So it's mainly on Twitter. On Instagram I don't spend much time anymore, but a part of artist, I have to say, like exploration, that also comes from Instagram, but it's mainly on Twitter and, again, I find it very easy to talk to the other artists or people, so I just DM them or comment on their posts.

NorCal Guy: 27:42

Nice, so do you have any questions for me?

Parin: 27:48

oh my god, yes, yes, finally. So I've been following you since the day one, I think, in the nft space and people always talk about, well, how amazing you are, and now I I know why they say and also, it's your great taste in photography in particular. So I do have a question like how, how are you this good in in here, in, like, um, recognizing good photographers, or like, how has your taste became this well, because there are a lot of people in the space that their taste is really bad and I'm like just go and learn from. So how did you, how did it happen? And also, how did you learn about the NFTs?

NorCal Guy: 28:43

OK, so that's a hard question to answer and I'm just kind of gonna go, I guess. Um, so I, I went to art school for a couple years, um, and my favorite class was photography, and so I took black and white photography. This was before there was digital cameras and that was like my favorite class. We developed our own film, we printed our own prints, and so that was one of my favorite classes. And then, um I think it was a person, I think it was we took a bunch of different classes like color theory, perspective, which I think that's one that many people don't understand is perspective. Um, like I'll like see stuff and I'm like like things are off in that thing. Why are you guys not like fix that, like it doesn't look right, but but yeah, perspective, um, I think that has a lot to do with it.

NorCal Guy: 29:43

I've always been like hands-on. I enjoy doing hands-on things projects, uh, whatever, like I. I did like auto paint, for I went to school for auto body work and paint and upholstery and all this stuff as well back in the day. So I have all this different like variety of different kind of artistic stuff that I've done in the past and I think that's all helped with me and developing an eye, and also when I went to that school, it was just being surrounded. So it was the Pasadena art center. I was taking night classes there and you're just surrounded by like the best of the best there and um, so you're always seeing like people's other work and they're they're known mainly, I think, for their auto designers and so like at the end of the semester or something I don't remember what time of the year, but then you had all these car drawings and all these different drawings and layouts of cars and models of cars in the halls, on the walls, everything everywhere, and so it was just like you're surrounded by all this stuff and then, like they're known for I think Ansel Adams was a teacher there for a little bit as well, and their photography department's pretty good. So it just it was just a good school to go to, even though I didn't I didn't even technically get into the school because I was like I'm not good enough, I'm just going to go get a business degree, which is what I did. I just eventually got a business degree. So, yeah, wow, that's my kind of art-ish background.

NorCal Guy: 31:29

As far as, like getting into crypto, I guess that was more like enough, like a political thing, um, because, uh, I've been a libertarian for like a long time and it was popular early on with libertarians because it was anti government, um, a decentralized money, and so, yeah, so that's how I initially got into crypto and then nfts took a little longer. Um, I remember hearing about crypto kitties and that was I didn't. I don't remember hearing about crypto punks. I think I kind of tuned out for a little what a little bit. But, uh, I remember hearing about crypto kitties and it sounded like a game and it sounded dumb and I didn't understand why people would be spending money on something some cat that you could like breed, and it didn't make sense to me at all.

NorCal Guy: 32:28

And then I finally got pulled back in with I started hearing a lot about nba top shots in 2020, um, mid to late 2020, and I finally got in and was having a lot of fun with that. And then I transitioned to art blocks, um, and was flipping those for a little bit, and then I stopped because I was just, I had thought about it for a while and Because I I mean, I have a long, usually have a long term or a long time horizon, is is pretty long. So when I as far as crypto and so I'm not a trader, so I was like, oh man, this is pretty dumb, that I'm like flipping these things even though the gains are great, but I feel like it'll be long term the gains will be much better and then, but I didn't like that.

NorCal Guy: 33:22

I really didn't really get to talk with the artists of gen art. Um, like there's because you're dropping like an addition of like 600 to a thousand and so you don't really get to talk to the artists much as because I'm like, hey, great, drop whatever in the discord, um. So then I got into the one of ones and that's where I really loved it, because it was you could actually talk with the artists and, um, develop friendships and whatnot. So, um, I think like one of the first guys I really talked to a bunch was James White, who made my which my PFP on Twitter is a one of one of his that I bought.

Parin: 34:07

Yeah, I love that.

NorCal Guy: 34:08

And then, as far as photography, it just didn't make sense that why no one was buying photography. To me, like photography is great. I don't understand why no one was buying photography. To me, like photography is great. I don't understand why no one's buying it, but uh, it's like the most relatable thing for anybody, and so I just started buying it because it didn't make sense to me. I was like it's dumb. I don't know why people are ignoring it, but I'll go buy it are ignoring it, but I'll go by it.

Parin: 34:41

So, yeah, I think that's mainly it. I'm so glad that we had this conversation to get to know you a bit more because, again, we always, like my friend and I time us who works at obscura, um, we always talk about you and how great your taste is and we were like it must come from, like I don't know, some like art, education, but not necessarily we didn't know. We were like we really always wish other people have your taste in this space and your kindness and just like everything about you.

Parin: 35:06

It's so rare in this space so yeah I'm I'm so glad that I had this opportunity to ask this question well, thanks, thanks.

NorCal Guy: 35:15

I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Well, do you have any other questions?

Parin: 35:21

For now, that's it.

NorCal Guy: 35:24

Do you have any projects that you are working on or anything in the works you'd like to discuss?

Parin: 35:31

I do. I'm working on a lot of animations. It's been almost six months that I haven't really minted anything anymore Because the first two or three years of NFTs I minted like pieces every month takes more time to create and they're like animations, one-on-one animations, all hand drawn. So this is my new collection that I'll be dropping it, I think, on foundation not sure yet, but I think it's going to go on foundation, but it's the animations and also, um.

Parin: 36:08

I'm very excited about something very new which is moving back to la from new York. So I'll move back um on July 1st and I'll be working on very big canvases which I couldn't really do that back in New York. So it's gonna be large canvases, um, drawing with two hands, blindfold, blindfolded, and I'm gonna do the whole like a behind the scene video. I'm gonna take the videos and photos and everything from, I think, 10 canvases. That's my plan for now. And then I'll be having performance in real life in LA Don't know about the venue yet. Performance in real life in la. Don't know about the venue yet, but it's going to be with with a musician, again blindfolded, two hands drawing in person. So these are, these are the new projects that are coming up oh, wow, all right, well, that's awesome.

NorCal Guy: 37:08

Uh, that sounds great. Um, hopefully it's like happens, why I hopefully coincides with some time that I'm down there so I can swing by and see it, that'd be, awesome.

Parin: 37:19

Yes, I would love that.

NorCal Guy: 37:21

Awesome. Well, Perrin, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciated the conversation. Thank you, and I wish you the best best.

Parin: 37:36

Thank you so much for having me. It was such an honor to meet you. Finally, hope to see you in person very soon and, yeah, thanks for this great interview, thank you.

NorCal Guy: 37:48

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