NorCal and Shill
A podcast where NFT artists tell stories, hosted by NorCal Guy. https://twitter.com/GuyNorcal
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NorCal and Shill
ArtPleb - Collector - Throwback
What if the art you own could redefine your identity? Join us as we sit down with Artplep, a fascinating figure who transitioned from a Bitcoin maximalist to an NFT advocate. Artplep shares his intriguing strategy of making bold statements on social media to attract knowledgeable feedback, offering an unconventional yet effective way to learn. He discusses his journey from skepticism to recognizing the cultural revolution within the NFT space and emphasizes the importance of staying open-minded.
We further explore the future of NFTs and digital art, focusing on Artplep’s artistic background and how it influenced his interest in Web3. The discussion highlights how NFTs are attracting diverse groups into the crypto world, fostering a deeper understanding of self-custody and complex crypto tools. We touch on the admiration for artists within the crypto ecosystem, the promising future of digital art, and the security concerns that come with it.
Lastly, we reflect on the profound relationship between art and ownership, discussing how intuition can guide art purchases and how what we own can shape our identity. Artplep shares his vision for the cultural integration of digital art into mainstream appreciation, without the technical jargon. We also get a sneak peek into exciting future projects, including a unique collaboration with Israel Rikiros. Tune in for an episode that blends traditional artistic appreciation with cutting-edge technology through personal anecdotes and innovative ideas.
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Art Pleb:NorCal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal and chill podcast Show.
NorCal Guy:It's chill time, norcal and chill podcast. What the sh-, what the sh-? Norcal and Shill Podcast. So it's showtime. Norcal and Shill Podcast. What the sh-, what the sh-? Hey, artplep, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?
Art Pleb:Good, how about you man?
NorCal Guy:I'm good. I'm good, it's a nice day. It's a little drizzly out, but you know it's nice here in California. Then I get to chat with you. It's awesome.
Art Pleb:Yeah, man, I look forward to this.
NorCal Guy:So I'm curious what were your thoughts when you first heard about NFTs?
Art Pleb:So I've been in crypto space Bitcoin for a while and I thought that NFTs were an exciting idea and I was just like it's going to be really cool when it actually happens. But this is ridiculous, is ridiculous. This is all you know. Eth shitcoin rate. I was kind of a Bitcoin maxi at the time so I was like I was thinking like, oh my God, like this is going to be really cool when it actually happens. And then I realized at some point along the way I was like, oh no, it's actually just happening right now. I'm just left out of it, and I think I had that flip sometime in like summer 2021. I think it was some of the art block stuff, some just like the big announcements that were coming up. Then that was like when cosmo did like paid for, like the snoop tweet or whatever, when soup dog admitted he was right, right, right no, it's funny.
NorCal Guy:I was right there with you, like I don't know what these people are doing on eth. It's pretty dumb. Why would I go? Look at that stuff? Saw the light at some point.
Art Pleb:I just realized like, oh no, this whole like cultural movement is happening like right now and I'm not a part of it right now, so I need to change. That Definitely shaped my views pretty substantially going into it. But yeah, it's like been really excited about everything that's happened since then.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, it's been a good ride. What is the best piece of advice you've been?
Art Pleb:given. So the best piece of advice I've been given and I'm going to caveat this was like this is Twitter advice. I don't know if this applies to real life, but you know, people say like people say you should like ask a lot of questions. If you want to learn something new, just sit back and relax and ask questions. I'm like no, that's wrong. What you want to do is say something loud and controversial. That's probably wrong, and that's how you're going to get all the attention, get everyone to be like, oh, look at this idiot, they're so stupid they don't know anything. It's actually a really good way to get feedback from smart people. This is kind of a hack that I learned from some of my early mentors in crypto very talented shit posters. You had to play the crowd, but it's actually really good advice and I learned a ton in NFT.
Art Pleb:Just being kind of loudly wrong. I was wrong on gender of art and I was kind of like I don't know, this is weird, I don't get it, this is stupid. I'd post that and people would tell me how wrong I was. I said some of the same stuff about AI art early on. People would tell me how wrong and stupid I was, and if you kind of come to it from a place of like, okay, I'm willing to have my mind change, but this is my dumb opinion right now. This actually could be a really good way to learn. Now you don't want to leap too far into that. You do need to pretty quickly follow up with being a normal, nice person and understanding the advice that's been given to you. But it's much more effective in terms of getting people to respond to you to just don't ask questions, just be wrong and they'll answer the question that you wanted to ask.
NorCal Guy:For sure, for sure. Did you collect anything, any art, any sports cards, anything before you got into NFTs?
Art Pleb:I was never like a big card collector but I've always kind of been into art. I owned a physical piece from this OG Bitcoin artist called Cutter Graffiti. That was the first piece of like real, like real art that I purchased for myself but grew up in and around art. My grandma on one side was an artist. On the other side of the family there's actually some fairly big name not big name, but like some people who have pretty decent size art collections, they're all like dead and gone. So they were never part of my life life and no one who's still around was like was into that. I'm kind of like leaving the charge to like get back into that stuff in my family. But I definitely come from a bit of. I don't have a have a background in that that I didn't realize, didn't really think that much about until I found a way that it really resonated with me that's cool.
NorCal Guy:That's cool to have that history back there. What are the best things about web3 today?
Art Pleb:the best thing about web3 today, I would say, is just the way in which it's drawing a totally different kinds of people into the space, into into crypto, into web3, into, like, into this whole world. Because before nfts, before this whole movement, it really felt like there was kind of a few different categories of people. There's like your hardcore big cornersers, which I spent a lot of time with very ideologically motivated. They're great, I love them, they're my people, but that idea is not really going to scale to everybody. Then you have these brilliant technologists who are building sharding solutions and bonding curves and all this stuff in the ETH, et cetera, ecosystem, defi, all this, which is also great, but no one understands what you're talking about. When you're going in on MEB and sandwich attacks, it's just like it's really kind of abstract and kind of obtuse to a normal person. And you have a bunch of degenerate traders which God bless them like. They make the space what it is, they keep stuff going. But again, that's still a relatively, even though it's a little bit more mainstream it's still a kind of narrow swath of the population that's going to want to trade things all the time and speculate and play all these silly games that we play. So to me, there's still a huge portion of people that are missing, maybe people that can gravitate into one of those fields eventually or have some overlap with a little bit of one, but they need a reason to get in in the first place. And for me, when I saw NFTs, what got me excited about it was it's a cultural thing. It's a whole different reason to get involved in the crypto ecosystem, to start to use these tools.
Art Pleb:At the time when I found NFTs, I was working in the self-custody space and I had this problem. It was really hard to get people interested in self custody unless they're, like A very technical and B very motivated already. And then I see all these Bordet pulvers and God bless the Bordet community. It's not who I am, but I really respect what they've built and what they've done, and everyone's getting hacked and was making fun of them.
Art Pleb:I was like, look, these guys are learning what seed phrase are. They are more so than a lot of people who trade or a lot of people who are on the ideological side. They're actually getting out there and doing the thing, doing self-custody, in a way that a lot of people who talk about game are not, and so to me, that's like hey, here's another way that we can draw more people into the tools that we're building, that the rest of the industry is building. That is ultimately going to be what achieves a lot of the objectives. I think that the crypto space in general is starting to build. Obviously, nfts are kind of their own separate thing. Actually, I like that, but yeah, that's really what it's about. To me, it's like Web3 means more reasons for different kinds of people to get involved in this community we're building, which I think is hugely important.
NorCal Guy:Right right, right right. That was a good perspective. There's a lot of people that are learning a lot for the first time. It's a lot to take in.
Art Pleb:So yeah, definitely mistakes are made along that way especially yeah, a lot of stuff goes down, but that's kind of how this stuff works and it's actually really hard to see even people who get hacked and get scammed like a lot of them, come back and keep going and keep doing it, like, hey, I got hacked, but it was this wallet, I made sure this other stuff was safe.
Art Pleb:I learned some lessons and to me, you don't hear from the people that get hacked and get washed out, but there's so much that we're learning about security and there's so much that we're learning about what motivates people to try this hard stuff, to like get involved with it, to get engaged with it, and to me it's just like really radically shifting the culture and I think it's it's hard to overstate how much nfts have shifted the culture within crypto more broadly and how much respect an artist is going to have, like kind of coming into some of these conversations, something that I think a lot of artists don't don't realize but, like you guys are helping to grow the pie, helping to really get adoption, and there's a lot of people who've built amazing technologies and companies and everything in crypto who I think have a lot of respect for the artists that are out there trying to make it and really some of the first people are really trying to make a living within the space that we're frantically trying to create, with varying degrees of success and other things that happen.
NorCal Guy:Where do you see digital art in five years and do you have any concerns as the space expands?
Art Pleb:I think it's going to be huge. I think it is going to be massive. I think it is going to have all the problems that it's going to have problems going to have the problems that come along with a ton of adoption and a ton of people participating, I think some of the stars in here will get really big. I think there's going to be some dynamics and you know, I think there's a lot of people who will do quite well, but I think, you know, there's certainly going to be a disparity there.
Art Pleb:But really, what I'm excited about is, like I think that the ownership of art and the ability to own a great piece of art is something that, like we have ownership for music. And when we figured out ownership for music, that's when music kind of left the clubs, left the radio and like went into people's homes. That happened in the 50s, then the 1960s happened and, like the whole music industry basically was birthed out of that. It was this massive cultural force. So I think that something similar to that is going to happen with NFTs. The one thing that is missing for that to happen right now is the deployment of the actual technology, whether it's screens I don't know if it's going to be screens in everybody's house, or it's going to be something that fits on their TV, or we're going to have to wait for, like AR to really take off. So I don't know which of those things is going to have to happen.
Art Pleb:But to me, like the 1950s was like this period where everybody started getting these hi-fi players in their house and then that's when, like the music, you know, that was the catalyst for then people to start going to record stores and the whole music industry to take off. So we have now the like record technology. Now it's a question of getting the distribution of, like the actual hardware out to the masses. But once we're there, like I think the visual art is going to be on par in terms of cultural relevancy in 10 years I don't know about five years, but 10 years it's going to be on par with cultural relevancy with music. Music and movies may have surpassed them, we'll see. But that's my like, ultra bullish Like I very much see us going that direction. I don't know exactly how we're going to get there. I would say I'm like, I'm like 60% sure that that's going to happen in 10 years, which is Right, right, no it's an interesting thought for sure.
NorCal Guy:Just trying to think about there's going to be technologies that are coming out. I mean the screens are just getting thinner, better, more portable. Yeah, it's going to be interesting Projectors as well.
Art Pleb:And I think it's really going to shift our relationship to technology too. So, right now, like every screen that you have your phone screen is trying to get your attention. Your TV screen is trying to like capture your attention, to hold it so you can sell your advertising, at least so you don't cancel the Netflix subscription or whatever Movie theaters. Are these like giant boxes that we build around large screens, like cram people into them, because that's the business model? And like, all these screens are designed to like captivate you more and more and like there's ways in which we just you know, our lives are kind of dominated by screens and our lives become very enmeshed in them. But obviously, like you know, you read Ready Player One this is the whole metaverse idea. But to me, I think that, like, the ability to have screens that are like not designed to fill your life all the time, that aren't designed to like hold your attention, is going to ultimately be a much healthier relationship to them. It's going to be like hey, this is stuff you can have on in the background, this is like stuff you can show off to your friends while you're interacting with people in real life.
Art Pleb:I see AR as kind of a similar thing where it's like it's always there, but it's always there in a way in which you're also like you're living, you're present in the real world at the same time. So to me, I think like, again, that's where visual art really can make a difference in terms of our relationship to technology in the long run. So that's something that I'm really hoping to see, excited about, happening. Again, I think that it's going to happen. I like to say my time horizons are a little longer and my certainty is a little lower, just because a lot of this stuff has to do with the development of hardware, which is like if there's a software problem, it's like oh yeah, we'll be there. Well before you know it, hardware takes a long time, it's hard to build, it's a problem on a much different scale. So TBD on the timing, but that's where I see us going.
NorCal Guy:I like it. I like it. What makes you decide to buy a piece? Do you watch an artist? Do you develop a relationship where it's like I got to get that now?
Art Pleb:There's so many different things, different motivations, that can make me decide to buy something. Sometimes it's like this is an artist I've been watching for a while. This is an amazing piece, I need this piece. I like this artist in general, but like this is the piece that speaks the most to me. And then it's a pretty quick decision to be like, okay, let's just do this.
Art Pleb:There's also times when, like I'll see something and it won't really resonate with me, or I won't like it that much, or I'll just kind of like, okay, whatever. Or maybe I miss it and maybe it's someone else, so it kind of like move on. But then I keep coming back to it. And when I keep coming back to a piece, that's the thing that tells me like this is something that has something, because it's captivated me. It has not escaped my attention the way most stuff does, and I keep coming back to it, I keep thinking about it. Why that is, I'm not totally sure, but like things can definitely grow on me.
Art Pleb:I've developed some of my favorite pieces. I've collected. I've collected because of that thing where I kind of keep coming back to them. And so I'll just say, like if you're an artist out there and you feel like you're continually just like posting stuff into the void. You might be, but it's also. Sometimes things take a little while to percolate. I certainly sometimes will. Just you know, moving off from that, I certainly sometimes just buy something because I think it's cool, or like the price is low and it's fun, and or it's like a meme. There's like some reason that I'm excited about it. So there's certainly that. But yeah, when it comes to things I spend substantial amounts of faith on it's. Either I just see it and I fall in love with it. It's from the artists I've been meaning to collect from and it's like my favorite piece of theirs, or it's like something that I keep coming back to. I would say one of those, one of those three.
NorCal Guy:No, I feel you on that one. Sometimes it is just the time thing you know you got to let marinate. Do you have a favorite movie quote?
Art Pleb:I do. I'm trying to. I had written down for this question because I knew you were gonna ask me and now I've lost my nose. Everything else has just been totally from the top of my head, but now I had. Okay, no, I got it. I found the tap.
Art Pleb:This is from fight club, which is one of my favorite movies. I think it really spoke to like I would say, like my generation. I mean not my generation, I'm 18 years old by the so. No, it speaks to like my generation of kids coming up in the 90s, and especially like men coming up in the 90s. But it really impacts how I think about crypto in general, how I think about Bitcoin and my relationship to Bitcoin and especially my relationship to art. It's the things you used to own. Now they own you. From Fightful, and it's from that monologue, edward Norton, the narrator's character.
Art Pleb:I from Fight Club, and it's from that monologue, edward Norton, the narrator's character. I don't think we ever we never get his name he's talking about. He's got this like he's some kind of consultant. He's flying around, he's got all this fancy furniture from his catalogs and he talks about how, like you know, his whole life is based around making money as this like business adjuster for a horrible insurance company and then like buying a bunch of shit to fill up the space, and I think that it's like you really have to be aware of the way in which the things that you buy impact you psychologically. I think that that was a big part of my relationship to Bitcoin was like I was. So I bought Bitcoin, I was there for fairly early, I was working in it, but like it became such a part of like my personality, became such a part of kind of like how I saw the world, because it's just like a thing that I owned, and I still believe a lot of the things I believed back then. Some of them I believe in more strongly, but it was occupying a place in, like my self-image that I became aware of, and I think that's true of like everything.
Art Pleb:I think that when you buy something whether it's a car or a status thing or a house or sometimes it's just other things you own, like a title and a job it's just really to define you and define how you see the world, and there's no escaping it. You can't be more mindful and not have it happen. The only thing you can do is be more deliberate about what you own and what you buy and what you spend money on, to make sure that those are things that inspire you, that you're going to value, that speak to you the way that you want to see the world, the way you want to see in the world as well. So, really, the big reason why I got into NFTs was kind of that was understanding the way in which Bitcoin played that role, and then that, if I want to be more deliberate about this, I can look at art, because art is like the ultimate expression of memes and ideas and identity that you pay money for and you can now own these ideas.
Art Pleb:You can own these things. You can own these memes, and people argue over whether you really own it, but, like, I don't care, it matters. I feel like I own it and that's the thing that matters the most and the people that I care about the artists and the other collectors that's what they care about. They understand that. So, like, if you're going to right click, save something like, that's fine, my job is to like, you can think that that's a perfectly way to appreciate art all the time and the entities are completely ridiculous and I respect anyone who wants to believe that about the world, I'm happy for them.
Art Pleb:But when I ultimately sell my entire collection to, I don't know, brian Armstrong or MoMA or whatever it is like they're not going to buy the right click save version. Like the people that matter and the ideas that matter within art, within culture, within, like within the small group of people that care about this stuff, the people that matter all believe the same thing and all see it the same way that I do. Again, I'm pretty convinced this is going to take off and it's going to be a meme that applies to everybody around the world. But if it doesn't, we're still just back in the digital version of the chat art space, which isn't a bad place to be, and it's with my people. So, anyways, that's why I like the quote the things you used to own, now they own you.
NorCal Guy:I like it, own Nelly, own you, I like it. I love that explanation as well. What would you like to see more of in the NFT space.
Art Pleb:I want to see more people, I want to see more adoption and I want to see us calling up NFTs less. I think that we need to. I tried for a while. I actually had like an autocorrect on my phone that changed NFT to like art or like digital art, so then it got really annoying. I had to get rid of it.
Art Pleb:But the thing is that, like, entities are this incredibly powerful technology. You read 6529's thing. He talks a lot about this and like it's going to represent stocks and like real estate titles and like all kinds of other stuff. We're going to build a ton of infrastructure around these digital goods in the long run. But, like, what I want to see is I want to see the cultural side of arts tokens, pfps, all these things to like take on a life of its own and to be called something different so that people understand participating in what we right now call the NFT scene.
Art Pleb:But really, to them it doesn't feel like they're joining a new scene, which is what it feels like now. They're joining a new scene, which is what it feels like now. Then it feels like oh you know, I was really into Supreme before and now I'm really into Supreme and like this other adjacent brand. That's all digital and like it doesn't radically change their appreciation. They're like who they think they are. It's just the technology changes under the hood.
Art Pleb:Same thing with like art. It's like I'm an art collector and I own a lot of regular art, and now I own a lot of regular art and now I own a lot more art that happens to be represented by NFT. It's all abstracted way. By the way, this is a much better way to do it. Wow, it's really a pain in the ass to sell those old paintings, but I can just sell this other one. It's instantly. And I don't want them to say NFT. I don't want them to even think the word blockchain or God forbid anything even more complicated than that. But I want to see more people in the cultural side of the NFT scene. I want to see less discussion of non-fungible tokens and all the technology behind it. We got a ways to go.
NorCal Guy:What is the best thing and the silliest thing you've ever spent money on?
Art Pleb:Oh, that's a good question. So the silliest thing is easy it's like the Elon Musk flamethrower. Oh, that's a good question. So the silliest thing is easy it's like the Elon Musk flamethrower. I never even used the thing, it was just like so ridiculous. But yeah, I bought it because, like my opinions on Elon Musk changed pretty much as it tweets. So, like I went for a while like oh my God, this guy is amazing. Then, when he got into the Bitcoin stuff, I was like you're a complete idiot. What are you doing? You have no idea what you're talking about. Oh my God, this is terrible. I just like the way he does the silly kind of meme things and so that's some of the silliest thing that I've ever spent money on, the best thing that I've ever spent money on.
Art Pleb:There's a lot of good ones here, but I will say like I found like one company who's close, I really like and I resonated with the stories that they tell. I'm connected a little bit to like the guy that runs the brand and I just really like the vibe that they're putting out there. The company is Rowan Blazers, by the way, so I used to row in college. Their founders are Rower Up.
Art Pleb:Obviously he has some connection I think his sister's in like a pretty big crypto VC as well. But he has this vibe which is kind of the vibe that I like, of the vibe that I like I try to put out to the world, which is like a little bit traditional, little preppy, little kind of east east coast, but like with a fairly wild style style to it. So he's got like these great, like this blazer that I have that's like it's called a croquet stripe, it's like all the colors of the rainbow but like really kind of nice silk patterns, and like he's just it's like very kind of preppy conservative clothing but also with like some ridiculous elements to it. So, anyways, that's probably all stuff I have from those. I'm not trying to show I really love their stuff and like it represents the vibe that I try to put out there.
NorCal Guy:Hey, that's great, I'll check them out. If you could commission a piece between two artists for a collaboration, who would they be?
Art Pleb:That's a really good question. I think that what I would do is, you know, one of the first people that I collected from were some of these aerial photographers See it from the sky Rich and then Rakesh Palapa, two of the first pieces that I got. I would love to see one of them, or both of them, collaborate with people you know, with some of the, some of the more like I want to see like that style picture in a couple of different ways, and I think that what I think would be really cool is to see, like see people work with AI to like do some different takes on the potential infrastructure of the future. I just think it's a really it's really unique perspective and a way to kind of imagine the world very differently, but like the high level view, because it really shows you like the scale, something like a container ship or like like a port, that things like that. I was thinking be cool if maybe they, if one of them, were to collaborate with, like some like the human photographers whether it's like guido or some of the new photographers out there just like to see different ways in which you could do like aerial portraits.
Art Pleb:That's a little weird. I don't know if that would quite work as well, but those are some of the ones mostly. I think that I don't know if that would quite work as well, but those are some of the ones Mostly. I think that I don't know. I really like what all the artists are doing. I think I'm the last person who's going to give somebody a good idea on collaboration.
NorCal Guy:What is an interesting fact about you that people might?
Art Pleb:not be aware of, I can ride a six-foot-tall unicycle.
NorCal Guy:Oh yeah, oh wow.
Art Pleb:At least I used to be able to At some point in my life. I was able to do that. Growing up, I spent a couple summers at hippie circus clown camp up in the California Redwoods. Wavy Gravy, the original emcee of Woodstock, ran this place and yeah. So I learned to salsa and swing dance. I learned to ride six foot tall unicycles. At some point I could even juggle while I was doing it. But I don't bust those skills out too often.
NorCal Guy:Wow, all right. All right, that's fair enough. Fair enough. Is there any projects you're working on that you'd like to discuss?
Art Pleb:Yeah. So there is a project that I'm working on right now the main ones with Israel Rikiros, called Long One with the King. We're co-producing that. He's creating all the art for the widest possible audience and I think like kind of goes back to that collaboration question, because what I see is like so much potential for like artists to come together and kind of create new things in new ways. Like my long-term fantasy here is that somehow a bunch of the phenomenal talented artists that we have in this space get together and like make a movie or make multiple movies or build a movie studio, and we do it with photography and then we bring in AI to keep the cost down on the animation side and we get people to write, get people to score it and like really figure out what that's like, what it takes to build something of that scale. That's like with the community that we have here and also with all the technical tools that are coming out and becoming kind of more and more accessible. I feel like the time is like it's going to happen. I said 10 years for the screens. You have to be for five years. This kind of thing is going to happen in like an eighth period or less, because the pace that AI is like enabling people to really kind of create their entire vision without having like sound crews and lighting and set and all those things is really moving fast. What we have everyone's gonna have access to that.
Art Pleb:What we have in this space is we have a tremendous community of incredibly talented people who are at the cutting edge of the art and the curation. Understand it from that side of it, which is like you see, a lot of the ai outputs that are out there fine, they're not that interesting. It's like the first person did Balenciaga and Harry Potter and it was genius, and then they did Balenciaga, then they did Balenciaga, star Wars, then they did Balenciaga. This crypto, like the meme, stays alive but, like the next executions of it are not that interesting. So executions of it are not that interesting.
Art Pleb:So, with the amount of creativity we have here, I think that there's tremendous potential to create really incredible new art that does scale out to a lot of people and really gets a lot of attention, which is a question of how to put that together. So that's something I'm thinking a lot about right now how to do that. I don't have any other official announcements yet, but there's definitely stuff I'm working on and yeah, I'll say this like if you're an artist and you're interested in telling stories and using your art to tell more kind of narrative stories in a slightly mid to longer format thing that you could get through a single image, I'm really interested in ways in which we tap into that and tap into the creativity of the space and start to move some of that forward. So please reach out ArtPleb on Twitter. I try to check my DMs occasionally.
NorCal Guy:I'm not the greatest about it, but I get to them eventually usually. Well. Artpleb man, I really appreciate you taking some time out of your day today spending it with me. I had a great time. It's always great to see you. I always enjoy running into you and hanging out with you at the different conferences. Yeah, especially enjoyed Miami last year. That was a great time, so looking forward to it again.
Art Pleb:That was a really good time. We'll do it against you. I don't know what the next thing coming up is. I'm not sure I might try to go to Miami in a couple of weeks If anyone else is good. Anyone else is going to be, so we'll see.
NorCal Guy:Nice, cool, well made Ornals.
Art Pleb:Ornals are happening.
NorCal Guy:Cool man, take care, talk to you later. Bye, bye. Who is this? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy?
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