NorCal and Shill
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NorCal and Shill
Who Needs Cash When You Have Digital Art? A Candid Conversation with Me Llamo Matt
Me Llamo Matt brings his unique perspective as an entrepreneur, investor, and founder of the Me Llamo Art Foundation to an engaging conversation about the evolution of digital ownership. What begins with his personal journey from crypto skepticism to NFT advocacy opens the door to profound insights about value, patience, and human connection in the digital age.
Matt's storytelling shines when he discusses his dream of living on an Italian lake with an antique wooden boat, revealing how our digital-focused community still craves authentic experiences shared with loved ones. His advice to "take care of yourself before taking care of others" offers a refreshing counterbalance to the always-on nature of Web3, while his observation that "great leaders follow themselves" celebrates the independent thinking that drives innovation.
Drawing fascinating parallels between the evolution of music consumption, books, cash transactions, and now art ownership, Matt builds a compelling case for digital property as legitimate property. "Just wait," he encourages those skeptical about NFT display limitations, predicting that technological advances will soon make our early collections look "phenomenal" and historically significant.
The conversation takes an unexpectedly moving turn when Matt connects the Shawshank Redemption quote "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies" to the current state of Web3. In a market that tests patience, his passionate belief in hope as our guiding force resonates deeply with anyone who's weathered the ups and downs of emerging technologies.
From his early baseball card trading savvy to his surprising poker skills and the meaningful work of the Me Llamo Art Foundation, Matt exemplifies how traditional values of community, integrity, and strategic patience translate perfectly into the digital frontier. Connect with the foundation on Twitter @MellamoArt to support their mission of creating diverse and inclusive spaces for artists.
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Speaker 2:Shill Podcast. What the sh-? What the sh-. Hey everyone, welcome to this next episode of NorCal and Shill. Today we have Miyamo Matt. Matt is an entrepreneur, investor, amateur photographer, always looking for the next opportunity, the founder of Miyamo Art Foundation. Everybody, please, welcome Miyamo Matt.
Speaker 1:Hey, matt, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today? I'm doing great thanks. How are you? I'm good. I'm good, day's going well, the weather is nice and I'm in an office, it's great. Yeah, I know, and I'm in an office, it's great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know I'm sitting inside too. Spring finally has come to Oregon. We should be doing this outside, it would be great, that would be great.
Speaker 1:I wish I could do more of these in person. It'd be great.
Speaker 3:Really seriously. We could have driven halfway to Ashland, oregon, or somewhere in that area. We could have hung out at a winery. Next time we'll do that together, like we should make that commitment to everybody listening. That Sunday you and I will do one live halfway between where we go.
Speaker 1:We could do that. Or I mean, maybe we should plan like something like in Santa Rosa. Is there a flight from Portland to Santa Rosa?
Speaker 3:There is a nonstop. I totally in. Next time you send me an invitation, you invite me to Santa Rosa. I am there, I'll pick up the wine.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll get Chicago.
Speaker 3:We'll be like Chicago we're coming to your spot. I would love that we need to do that for sure.
Speaker 1:So what were your first thoughts when you heard about NFTs, crypto art?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so my answer is similar but a little different than others. For me, it goes back to when I first heard about crypto. I had a very negative reaction to crypto and I was resistant to that and I thought, oh, that's dumb, why do we need something other than US dollars? But then, once I understood blockchain technology and I bought into that and I became a believer of crypto, moving to NFTs was actually pretty easy for me.
Speaker 3:It made a lot of sense to have digital ownership of, or digital art on, the blockchain, and the first convo I can specifically remember about crypto was in summer of 2021 with my cousin, chris Haitha, who did the RoHomes and the High Rises project. We were at his brother's wedding and a bunch of people were talking about crypto in a positive manner, which is not always the way it goes when you're sitting in a group of people, and Chris started. He hadn't released Real Homes yet, but he started talking about it and so obviously I was pretty open to it, because here's my cousin in a positive convo and it just it made a lot of sense. So I actually was a believer in NFTs fairly quickly.
Speaker 1:Nice, that's good, better than me, but it's awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, I feel like you discovered crypto way before me, so really no, it's not better.
Speaker 1:If you could live or move anywhere, where would it be and why?
Speaker 3:I freaking love this question. Every time you ask it, I stop what I'm doing and just think what my answer would be, and I've always actually dreamed of being asked this question. So, and then I thought about it, I still wavered 12 different places, right, but I came down to my first thing would be I would live in the same town or area as our three children and their families, because ultimately, to me that's the most important is to have experiences with your family. Now, that being said, if I could convince the three kids and their families, their spouses and kids to move wherever I wanted to, I would live on one of the big lakes in Northern Italy, so Lake Como or Lake Maggiore.
Speaker 3:I would want a villa on the lake, I would want a dock, I would want one of those old wooden antique boats, but I wouldn't want to take care of it. So I guess I would need a local kid to take care of the boat too. And then I'd want to just be able to like, call people up and go hey, come on over, let's go out on the boat and let's cruise over to an Italian restaurant with some pasta and some food, and I think that'd be the place I'd want to live. That'd be nice Sounds very relaxing It'd be cool.
Speaker 1:What's the best piece of?
Speaker 3:advice you've been given. Yeah, it's always so hard, you know, by my personality, whenever people say what's the best, I always have to have two, but at least I can cut it off at two. I don't need three or four. But a couple of the words of advice that I have been following lately one is take care of yourself before you take care of others, and that's really important. And sometimes when you do that and you follow it, you actually get it's kind of frowned upon.
Speaker 3:It's like, for instance, might have a really busy day or a few busy days, and I might be like, well, I got to take care of myself first, so today I'm going to sleep in an hour longer. Or today I'm going to sneak out and go for a walk or play around a golf or whatever. And people are like, well, you're being irresponsible, you golf or whatever. And people are like, well, you're being irresponsible, you're being lazy. And I'm always like, no, I'm taking care of myself first so that I can be effective and efficient and I can then take care of others. And I think, especially in this space, a lot of people forget that. The other advice I like but maybe I just use it to rationalize my own behavior is. Good leaders follow the rules. Great leaders follow themselves. So every time I break a rule, if I get called out on it, I just think well, that must mean I'm a great leader, because I'm following myself rather than the rule. So there you go.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, I like it, I like it.
Speaker 3:Feel free to steal it anytime you want. I know I stole it from someone. You use that with my kids or something. Yeah, no, because then you're teaching your kids it's okay to break the rules. Oh, true.
Speaker 1:Don't do that, all right? Did you collect art or anything else before crypto art?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't really collect art because my wife and I have always lived in relatively small houses with limited walls. I always admired art, I always enjoyed looking at it, but if we wanted to pick up a piece of art and put it on a wall, it created a negotiation, and one of my secrets to a long, happy marriage is limit negotiations as much as possible. So I didn't ever collect a lot of art. But, with that being said, I definitely have a personality to collect things, without a doubt. From as soon as I can remember, I was collecting baseball cards, football cards. I was always a Wheeler dealer too.
Speaker 3:I'll never forget when I was about six years old and it must've been in the fall and the football cards just came out and I got my dad to take me to the drugstore and I talked him into buying a box of football cards. And I came back to my buddies down the street and they had baseball cards that were 10 and 15 years old even then and I somehow I remember turning that box of brand new football cards that this guy had to have because he was fumbling and I turned it into literally like 5,000 old baseball cards that he had no use for anymore. Oh shoot, oh yeah. So I've always been a collector. I've collected watches a little bit, cars a little bit, but yeah. So when I started collecting NFTs, it was just a natural extension of my personality, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What are the best things about Web3 today?
Speaker 3:no-transcript. It's just the people. I love walking into these Web3 events and I just love walking up to strangers and I just say like hi, I'm Matt, who are you? And then I just sit back and I just love hearing the story and it's always a great story and it's almost always a different story. That's the thing about Web3. And I think you would probably agree it's addictive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good, the people are definitely keep you around. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Where do you see digital art in NFTs in five years and do you have any concerns as it?
Speaker 3:expands. I see far more mainstream adoption. I don't know if that's just my wish, because I'm heavily invested, but I don't think it is. I really do. I think in some ways we went through this with music. I think you're old enough. I know I'm old enough that first you had records and then you had tapes and then you had CDs. And then some people said, hey, take this, you can listen to music on your computers. And you're like, no, I got to have my physical thing, I got to have my CD, I got to have my record and, by the way, the music sounds really crappy on my computer and people would be, yeah, but just wait, because pretty soon we'll have great speakers and there will be a great way to listen to them.
Speaker 3:And then it happened with books. Right, like it happened with books. And now so many people take their books digitally and they don't have libraries, like back in the day you'd walk in someone's house and a whole wall would be books. Now they have a Kindle or Audible. It's even happening with physical cash and nobody really talks about that. And I'm not talking about because of blockchain, I'm talking about just the average person today doesn't carry cash. I don't carry cash Between doesn't carry cash. I don't carry cash Between credit cards and Apple Pay and Venmo and Zelle and who carries cash anymore? So if people don't have to carry their CDs anymore and a book and a magazine in cash, then why do they have to have their art be physical?
Speaker 3:Now there's another issue, like I mean sure, we love physicals. I have physicals up on my walls, but those, to me, are representation of the NFT that I have and that's safe, and so I just think digital property is real property and in so many other areas that has been fully accepted and I just think within five years it will be accepted in art. And part of the issue is it's like I alluded to when we first started listening to music on our computers. Part of the issue is it's hard to view an NFT in a really effective manner right now, right, unless you want to spend like a lot of money on a token frame and not that would be able to do that. But just wait, like, just wait. It's coming, like technology is always advancing. So very soon we will have great, great ways to see our NFTs, and then I actually think the NFTs that we bought in 2020 and 2021, 2022 will be historical and they'll just look phenomenal. And that's where it's at.
Speaker 3:I'm not really concerned about the space expanding. It's like anything when things expand, you lose some of the maybe human connectiveness. You lose some things but you gain other things, and this is called change. Right, things just change and so I'm not one to be concerned about change. I'm more like let's embrace it and let's find the positives in it. And let's embrace it, let's work on that Like let's embrace it and let's find the positives in it and let's embrace it.
Speaker 3:Let's work on that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. What makes you decide to buy a piece? Do you watch the artists for a while, get to know them, or is it like I need that one combo of all of the above?
Speaker 3:Well, I will occasionally say I absolutely have to have that one, but that's typically if, like, I feel like you're looking at it and so I have to act quick and I have to find the buy now button. But if I'm not worried that you're about to swipe it from me, then I probably have the same answer as just about everybody else. So I mean, first I have to connect with the piece and then I have to decide if you're going to connect with it or not. And then, assuming I do connect with it, I do need to believe in the artist. I have to either and some of that about believing in the artist, like I have to believe that they're committed to the space, that they're not just a cash grab Not that I'm opposed to artists making money I mean I'm super flexible, like you should but that they're committed to the space, they're doing it for the right reason and that they're a good person. I mean it does affect me. If I don't view them as like a particularly good person, then I don't really have an interest in collecting. I don't have an interest in collecting their art, no matter how much I connect with it, if I don't, those, to me, are important and it needs to be fairly priced.
Speaker 3:There's definitely been pieces I love from artists I love, and I just don't think they're priced to where the mark is, and that's the collector mentality to me, and I can't get over it. I feel like you might do that sometimes too. I just can't get over it and it kind of sucks because then the artists think well, like well, wow, matt, that's kind of judgmental or that's kind of gatekeeping, and I'm like sorry, it's just like I can't get over it. I can't get over it, like that's part of collecting, right, like it's. It just is what it is. So they have to be fairly priced, and I don't know exactly what that is and everybody has their different opinion. But what I would say is if, in my opinion, it's not fairly priced, then I should not feel obligated to collect it. I guess that's how I live.
Speaker 1:I'm with you on that one. I mean, I definitely, and I also have like a budget. I'm like I'm not willing to spend over this much for a piece. So once an artist sometimes goes above that, I'm out A hundred percent. Yep.
Speaker 3:I'm the same way, for sure. Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 1:movie quote.
Speaker 3:I do. So another question that I love. So when I started thinking about this, I first just went to my favorite movies, because, like, there's always a quote I use all the time in a movie. Like that's not necessarily my favorite movie, like our family and my friends often use a dumb and dumber quote, like when Jim Carrey says like to the girl so is there a one in a thousand chance, or one in a million? And the gal's like, well, at best one in a million. He's like so you're saying there's a chance. Like that's a quote I use a lot, but that's certainly not a favorite quote. So I went I started thinking about like. So the movies that I love are like.
Speaker 3:I think that the Godfather movies are insanely good. They're so damn long but they're super good. Casablanca is just timeless. It's a Wonderful Life. It's a Wonderful Life is a really great movie for when you're an entrepreneur and your business is kind of sucking it and you're struggling If you're an entrepreneur, that's always going to happen at some point in your life and then when you're down, you watch it's a Wonderful Life and you get modified. It's kind of like Rocky and you go kick ass. But I ended up selling on Shawshank Redemption, which is like a movie I just absolutely love. I don't know if you've seen it. Yeah, it is a great one. Oh, it's so great.
Speaker 3:And Andy Dufresne, the lead character, he was pretty much just a perfect choir boy angel before he went to jail. He unjustly gets accused and convicted of murdering his wife. He did not do it. And then while he's in jail which is the whole part of the movie, the primary part of the movie he actually turns like he breaks a lot of rules. He breaks a lot of laws. He really starts but it's all for the end, like how is he going to escape?
Speaker 3:There's two quotes from him that to me are really important and I think they also apply to our space. The main quote is when Andy Dufresne says and he says it at some point in the movie when he's probably been in jail for years and years. He's gone from a young man to an old man. But he's people like how do you carry on? Like, well, he has his internal plan right To get out.
Speaker 3:So he says hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. I think that applies right now to where some people are in our space. Hope is a good thing. The space is pretty dead. It is what it is. We're not selling, but hope is a good thing and hope will carry us through. And I just think, as long as we maintain hope in the community Web3, it's not dying, it's not going away. And then the other quick quote he had, which I think he did right at the end of the movie, or maybe Morgan Freeman had this quote, but it was like I guess it comes down to a simple choice Get busy living or get busy dying. Oh yeah, yeah, you know that's just life in general, right, like, let's just get busy living. I love it.
Speaker 1:Solid, solid, solid choices Cool. What would you like to see more of in the NFT space?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have a really short answer on this one because I don't want to be preachy or judgmental and it's not very original, but it is what it is. I would like to see more patients. I really think that is one of the biggest problems or challenges with Web3 is lack of patience, and it's across the board. It's like I'm going to take next week off and go on vacation and guaranteed I'm going to get people DMing me. Matt, are you okay? I haven't heard from you. I haven't seen you on Twitter, are you okay? And I know they mean well, but that's a lack of patience Because, like in real life, you might not see your buddy for six months, right, and you don't worry that. You see him at the bar in six months and you're like, hey, how are you doing? And, of course, it has to do with collecting pieces. People collect pieces and they're like I'm a long-term holder and then 30 days later they have it listed. It's just not healthy, right? It's just not healthy, this lack of patience. And then the other thing I would like to see more of is a willingness to try something different. There to see more of is a willingness to try something different.
Speaker 3:There's just a lot of followers in this space and I think maybe it comes from just a normal human instinct of the fear of making mistakes. I think maybe people are afraid to make mistakes and so if they see somebody do something with a little bit of success, they're like okay, that's a safe choice, so I'm going to do that, it will work, whereas if I try something different it might be a mistake. But ironically it kind of becomes this I don't know if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy or what it is, but it becomes this thing where people copy until ultimately a bunch of people do it, does fail, like whatever the new hot thing is a burn mechanism. The first four people that did it kicked butt the fifth person everyone's like this is too much, I can't do it.
Speaker 3:I missed the try things different and I get. When you try things different, you may not have a huge chance of success, but so many people are just like, oh no, you can't do that. They're like well, why not? They're like, well, it's never been done. I'm like, okay, I don't accept that answer Like let's try something different. I guess that's what I would like to see more of, is trying new things and having more patients.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like those answers.
Speaker 3:I definitely agree with that.
Speaker 1:Right. What is the best thing and the silliest thing you've spent money on?
Speaker 3:So I didn't really know if this is a Web3 question or in real life question.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to answer it both ways, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You can either leave them both in or you can edit it out. I don't care. So Web3, without a doubt, the best thing I've spent money on is one-to-one art and from certain artists that are just typically the ones that are best are the artists that just didn't expect it, Like they just they know who I am and they're like oh my God, thank you so much for collecting. So often it's an emerging artist. Sometimes it's an artist that's really just down on their luck and they feel like they're not getting any support and then all of a sudden you can motivate them and you can get them going.
Speaker 3:I love buying the grails and that's super cool, and you know that isn't, to me, the best. The best is, like I said, the people where you connect with and you kind of catch them off guard and you get this genuine human gratitude. It makes a difference in their career and occasionally you can make a difference, and so that would be the best. The silliest thing I spent money on in Web3 is well, apparently, according to everybody else is moonbirds, so it seems pretty silly. At this point I don't know what else I can say about it. The worst part is I'm a believer in DCAing, so when Bitcoin and ETH were coming down from the top, I was DCAing, and somehow, someway I don't know how it happens I've been DCAing Moonbirds too, and I don't know why. I just every now and then decide well, if I buy one now, it brings my costs down. That's true.
Speaker 1:That's a good point.
Speaker 3:I don't really buy any other PFPs, but I buy moonbirds and I yeah.
Speaker 1:You're trying to corner the market.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just trying to bring my costs down so forever. If, for some reason, somebody FOMOs in, I can get back out, so but in real life I would say the best thing I ever spent money on was when I did. I've done it three times over the course of my life is a second home or a cabin? Because what those really are are memory factories. They create unbelievable memories with your family and your friends and your kids' friends, and I started doing it maybe 30 years ago when we lived in Minnesota with a lake home.
Speaker 3:We moved to Oregon, I bought a place up in the mountains, and not a day goes by where I don't look back and think of like you remember that time either something hilarious happened or something disastrous happened, or the time our youngest son had broken his wrist at the playground and we didn't believe it and we took him to the lake, we made him tube and he was holding onto the rope tubing and he was probably nine years old and he was whining and that his wrist hurt and Matt was like oh, don't be a baby. Or on the lake. And then Monday came and we sent him off to camp and we get a call like right away from the counselor and is like you know, I think your son has a broken wrist. Have you thought about taking him to the hospital? Like those are the memories that you make. That was not necessarily a great one, but so that was the best thing I've ever spent my money on in real life our cabins or lake homes. I love that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then the silliest thing was when I was I don't know. I was young late 20s, early 30s I had some cash and I bought a gray market Porsche that had been brought over from Germany. It was a 930. They were barely street legal, I think. If I recall right, a year or two earlier they were not street legal in the US, and then they became street legal, and so I bought one, and the big giant whale tail looked super awesome.
Speaker 3:I thought this was just like this is it, man, this is it. And then I realized I was like I couldn't drive it anywhere. I own pizza delivery companies. I couldn't drive it to work because we were always telling our drivers not to speed. Like you can't speed, we'll fire you if you speed. So I can't drive, I can't let anybody that works in my car. I can't, I couldn't drive it anywhere, so it was like the definition of silly, I guess. So I sat in my garage for a year or two and I sold it. I would say, though, if I'd kept it, it probably wouldn't have been silly today. I feel like that car is probably worth a lot of money.
Speaker 1:There you go. If you could commission a piece and have two artists collaborate on it, which two artists would it be?
Speaker 3:All right, I got this one and it was not for lack of work. I know everybody says this is an impossible question and it is not easy and everybody goes down the same roads that I did too, like Kath and who? Or I've been geeking out on DK's work lately. So I'm like, well, what if you went with DK and Grant and you had DK's animations running around at Grant? But that's what everybody does. But then I came up with it. I really believe in this one. It's a complete bomb, but I feel like you would buy this, you would collect this piece, if we could pull this one off, and I've not heard anybody make this suggestion. Ack and Summer Wagner.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I could see that combo.
Speaker 3:Because Summer's pretty mythical, and so then you put some of ACK's colors or some of his skulls or whatever, and some of his work, I feel like those two could crush it. But that's the one I'm actually kind of excited about, or really excited. I think that would be a really cool collab, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can see that one for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Interesting. What is one interesting fact about you that people might not be aware?
Speaker 3:of, I would say the fact that I can play poker at a level where I could hold myself, I could hold my own at a table of the best players in the world, because I've done that before. I've played at that level. I don't think I could beat them on a consistent basis, but I absolutely can, like on any given night, beat a table of the best players in the world playing poker. That's awesome, I know, and the key to that is it's not the cards, it's more the image. It's more the image and the strategy and the discipline. And so when I sit down at a table or I don't play much anymore, but when I would sit down at a table very quickly before you lose too many of your chips you determine who you're better than and who's better than you, and then you need the discipline.
Speaker 3:If that person's better than you, you have to have the self-awareness to know who's better than you, and then you have to really be willing to avoid them unless you get the absolute perfect situation. And then you focus in on the players you are better than and you accumulate their money while avoiding the other people, and then sooner or later, if you do it properly, sooner or later you can get a situation where you can trap the great player, catch them off guard, because you need more discipline than them and more patience. It goes back to that patience. You need more patience. You can catch those players and it's something that I can do, but I don't really enjoy it. I don't. It's a lot of work, man, so I don't really enjoy poker.
Speaker 1:So for that would have to be the interesting fact that not many people know. No, I like that. I like that, that's a good one. I didn't even know. I mean, that's a good one, I didn't know it yeah, you want to play poker.
Speaker 3:Next time we see each other, I'll be fine no, no.
Speaker 1:What is your favorite way to connect with new people in the space?
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure it's one of one. Excuse me in real life, but my preference of in real life events would be one on ones like a coffee or a beer, or two people, or three people, or a meal with a small group of people. Events like New York and LA those are fun and they're great, but the parties are just like. You can only do so much. You're in a party, you see somebody, you say hi, you introduce yourself, but you can't have more than a couple of minute convo before somebody else comes in and the subject changes or you move on. So, it's for sure, the small groups. But, with that being said, you don't have to wait for the big events. So maybe people listening to this are like, well, yeah, but I live somewhere where I can't get to New York. I live across the world, or we don't have these events. So I think what I would say is there's people everywhere in Web3 and you can always find a person or two people in your neighborhood or your city or everybody that travels, and traveling can even just be like driving to the town three hours down the road. Right, get on Twitter, figure out who lives there and reach out to them, like I've had people you probably have too.
Speaker 3:I've had people reach out and say, hey, man, I'm going to be in Portland, you want to have a beer, you want to have a coffee. And I'm like hell yeah. And those 99 out of 100 times I leave those meetings and I'm like I'm really glad I did that. That was really cool. So I think for sure that's the way to meet people and that's like I think I may have mentioned. But I'm heading to Italy tomorrow for a week and one of the side trips we're going to take is we're going to take a two-night trip and we're going to meet three Web3 artists. I can't freaking wait. I've never met any of them because they all live in Italy. They don't ever make it over here, right? So I'm going to meet Gianluca, enrico and Mickey and I just can't wait. That's the way it should work, nice.
Speaker 1:I like that. That's going to be fun. Yeah for sure, great answer. Are there any projects that you're working on that you'd like to talk about?
Speaker 3:I would, but man, I've been asking so many people for money. I don't want to ask yeah. No, in all seriousness. In case people don't know, I founded a project called Miyamo Art and our mission is to create a diverse and inclusive community to support artists, and we're a registered 501c3 nonprofit and right now we're just building brand. We're trying to raise some money. It does turn out. It costs money to do these things and we just want to be that organization that supports artists and through in real life events, spaces, podcasts, you name it we're trying to keep all our options open. It's going to be a slower build than maybe we had hoped, partly because the market is slow, but that's okay. It's okay. We have a super passionate team of about 10 people and a lot of other people that want to join the team, but we need roles. It's been super great. So if people want to check us out on Twitter, we're at Miyamo Art. It's pretty cool. It's a lot of fun, Nice.
Speaker 1:No, it's a great project. You got a lot of things going, a lot of things coming together.
Speaker 3:I look forward to how it grows, yeah, and you've been an unbelievable supporter guy. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course You're welcome. Well, Matt, thanks for coming on the show. Really enjoyed it. I always enjoy my conversations with you.
Speaker 3:Do I get to ask questions? Because you always ask artists if they have any questions?
Speaker 1:Sure, sure, let's do it, let's do it. You want a question? Let's do it, let's do it. I got a few, but you can speed. You got a speed answer. What's it called speed round them?
Speaker 3:speed round. Yeah, taco pizza or pineapple pizza, a taco like taco style pizza.
Speaker 1:You never heard of taco pizza. Okay, we failed on that. I mean, this sounds like delicious.
Speaker 3:I'd rather go with that than pineapple pizza it would have lettuce on it though, so but okay, very cool dk or seer light I might go with dk on that one ack or x copy probably x copy on that one.
Speaker 3:Ack or Xcopy Probably Xcopy on that one. Okay, who is Lascaux? I don't know. Yeah, I don't either. I wish I did, though, right, all right. Last question Next time I see a piece on auction and I can't find the buy now button, what time should I start it? That's going to make you the most mad, because you won't be around in exactly 24 hours to come in and snag it.
Speaker 1:Like usually around one o'clock, like 1245, 1250, one o'clock.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that doesn't work. I'm not up at that time. This is my problem.
Speaker 1:No, no, no In the afternoon.
Speaker 3:I did that to you once. I did that to you once. I remember once I started an auction, you were like me I'm out and I was like oh crap, nap time, sorry, yep.
Speaker 1:Not your nap time, of course. Right, right, right yeah. Or actually early morning, ooh, because I'm sure you're up before me, so early mornings I could do that.
Speaker 3:I'm not waking up. There you go, I could do that Cause then you'll put your last bit in late at night, at least. Then I'll have time to think about it. I still probably won't be able to compete, but I'd be able to think about it. That's it. That's all I got.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, Matt, thank you so much for your time. I really enjoyed the show.
Speaker 3:Thanks, guy and I really. Seriously, we need to do one. Live at Santa Rosa, that's the deal. That'd be fun.
Speaker 1:Cool. Well, you have a good day. We'll talk soon, okay, Thanks, man.
Speaker 3:Have a good one. Who is?
Speaker 1:this. Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Norcal, guy, norcal guy.
Speaker 2:Who is this guy?