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Out of Place: Finding Art in Life's Uncertainties

• NorCal Guy • Season 1 • Episode 183

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What does it mean to translate neurological perception into photographic art? Landscape photographer Jared Armijo takes us deep into his creative world where synesthesia—a condition where senses cross-connect—shapes the surreal, minimalist landscapes that have become his signature style.

Jared's artistic journey began in a family of painters where he emerged as the photographic outlier. His high school photography teacher spotted his innate talent for composition and color, giving him unprecedented access to experimental techniques from liquid light to oil painting on photographs. These early experiences formed the foundation for his desolate, otherworldly landscapes that communicate emotional narratives through peculiar color palettes.

Most fascinating is Jared's revelation about discovering childhood drawings that unconsciously expressed his synesthesia—amorphous shapes filled with careful gradients—created long before he understood his unique neurological wiring. This same perceptual gift now informs his distinctive photography, allowing viewers a glimpse into how he experiences the world.

Beyond aesthetics, our conversation explores Jared's practical approach to creative sustainability. His work in medical imaging, particularly during the pandemic and in a cancer hospital, has profoundly influenced his perspective on mortality, feeding directly into his ambitious new project "Death Is," which will blend Southwestern influences with themes of impermanence. We also discuss his candid feelings of displacement and considerations about life outside the United States, reflecting the restless spirit that animates much of his work.

Whether you're interested in experimental photography, the neuroscience of perception, or navigating the volatile world of NFTs (where Jared offers invaluable advice to newcomers), this episode offers unexpected insights from an artist whose work bridges inner experience and outer reality. How might we each translate our unique perceptions into meaningful expression? Listen and be inspired to see—and create—differently.

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NorCal Guy:

Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? Who is this guy?

Jared Armijo:

NorCal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal and chill podcast Show.

NorCal Guy:

It's chill time, norcal and chill podcast. What the fuck? What the chill, norcal and Shill. Today we have Jared Armio. We have Jared Armio. Jared is a landscape photographer who uses synesthesia, minimalism and surrealism to express his life's journey. Otherworldly, desolate and surreal scenes with peculiar colors and stories. Be human, be kind, everybody. Please welcome Jared, hey, jared, hey, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

Jared Armijo:

I'm good. How are you?

NorCal Guy:

I'm good. I'm good man. The day is nice here. It was supposed to be cloudy, but it's sunny out and loving it. Got to go on a bike ride with my son this morning. Threw him in a bike trailer, took him to a coffee shop. We had some quiche and a muffin.

Jared Armijo:

No biscuits, no biscuits.

NorCal Guy:

We had also a breakfast burrito thing and he had a muffin as well Burrito thing.

Jared Armijo:

You're like I don't know, I don't know if it was, but it was a thing and it was kind of a burrito, but I don't know.

NorCal Guy:

Like, so, okay, I'll just say what it is okay. When I think breakfast burrito, I think it's gonna be Mexican somehow, because burrito obviously and this was like I think it's going to be Mexican somehow. That's fair Burrito obviously, and this was like curry seasoned tofu in there, and so it tricked me.

Jared Armijo:

Obviously Burrito thing.

NorCal Guy:

So I went with the vegan one and I was like alright, Maybe they made the vegan one and I was like all right maybe they made the wrong one because it's supposed to have jalapenos in it too.

Jared Armijo:

Now that I'm thinking about it, because I asked them I was like is?

NorCal Guy:

this spicy because I'm going to give this to my son, and they're like no, it's not spicy at all and I'm like wait, I don't remember any jalapenos in there. Maybe they gave me the wrong one, maybe that's it but it threw me off. It sounds like it buddy maybe, maybe, now that I think about it, I mean, you know, whatever I mean as a dad, you're just basically like hey, what sounds good to you, kid yeah like here. I got you multiple options eat some of all of them, please.

NorCal Guy:

And I'll finish up and clean up crew. And here's some apple juice Cause. Thank goodness they have something else here and I got myself coffee.

Jared Armijo:

How are you supposed to do it? Get a burrito thing. Get a burrito thing for sure. The next order Hide somerito thing for sure the next order.

NorCal Guy:

I stopped and said hi to some horses on the way home. That was it Nice, what a great morning With your burrito coming Tricky. They're tricky man. Call it a wrap. Call it a wrap, that sounds better than a burrito for your situation you seem very perplexed by it, right I know you can't. You gotta call it a wrap. If it's not mexican flavors, you gotta call it a wrap, sorry I'm sorry unless you're calling it some sort of fusion. That's fair If you say fusion.

Jared Armijo:

I'm like okay, I know it's not Mexican burrito, like this is something else, right, right, Okay, that's fair Right.

NorCal Guy:

Right, I mean etiquette.

Jared Armijo:

Etiquette. I want you to go to him next time and be like. I need you to have more etiquette and do not serve me a burrito thing. I want a burrito thing I want a burrito. This is not named. A lot of burritos thing.

NorCal Guy:

Thank you right it's not get, get it, get the facts correct this is not correct, you guys are clearly wrong, it's in a tortilla. We'll just call it a burrito it's a wrap, sir oh man, so do you have and use a hardware wallet uh, yeah, I mean, that's the first thing I got.

Jared Armijo:

You know like people are like no, you need to buy this, buy this, but don't buy it from amazon, don't buy it from some weird site, buy it from like, buy it from this site, this specific site.

NorCal Guy:

And I was like why you don't want right why, why, why does it matter that much cheaper? They're like it's good you want.

Jared Armijo:

They're like it's for a reason to get dummies like you, true?

Jared Armijo:

you want the, the ledger, not the ledger thing, ledger thing, don't do the ledger thing, do a ledger. It's important, though, man. I mean, how many times have we seen like people get fucked, get wrecked and it's just like from that, or they click a damn link and do not click a damn link, that person you don't trust. There's so many scams out there, especially in this Web3 world compared to Web2, uh, where I came from when I first started, you know, um, it's just way more you need to look out for here than I would say web 2. Like web 2, like there's some scams and stupid shit, you know, but like these people are, like they're really good like I remember I was like you guys are assholes.

Jared Armijo:

I got a threat one time because I minted some pieces on Super. I don't even remember what it was. Oh, no, yeah, it was from my series Resurrection, which was like a music slash photo kind of montage thing I made with one of my friends, my friends but as soon as I mentioned it, you got one. Actually I was like what am I thinking um? But yeah, I got an email that next morning saying like you're copyright infringing, bubble, all this like very detailed thing, like very detailed. I was like and I this is my first time I've collaborated with an artist, so I was like fuck, did he like steal this music and not make it his own? You know, like I'm like just thinking all these like crazy things I'm like.

Jared Armijo:

These photos are mine. Asshole like I did these from like way long ago, like I did not fuck it up and so. So I was just like thinking. I was thinking I was like, well, shit, how do I approach this, my other artist, my friend? Like I don't want to sound like I'm, you know, like accusing him and this is my first collaboration ever, and so I was like uh, and so like I talked to him, I was like how'd you make this? You know, like these little things, and he's, he totally made up.

Jared Armijo:

I was just being like I was just being stupid about it, but like it was very yeah, very like convincing because like I've seen these kind of like this kind of format before, um, from my other friends who've got like accused of plagiarizing or something of the sort way way back when. So I was like shit, this language and everything is very like on point and so it freaked me out.

Jared Armijo:

I was like, oh shit, I'm gonna burn all of them right now like that was my first I was like I'm burning all these, like there's like 12 or 14 I'm like damn it. So yeah, no, the answer to your question yes, I use the ledger, I was like damn it. So yeah, oh no, to answer your question yes, I use a ledger To wrap it back all the way back there.

NorCal Guy:

There you guys go Love it. Perfect, that is the answer. What were your?

Jared Armijo:

first thoughts when you heard about NFTs. You know, uh, I heard I started. I started browsing the space, I think like in march of 2021, like february, I like kind of. Like I heard the word nft and I was like I don't care and like that was my thought process, I don't care. But then, like it kept popping up a little bit more and like photographers back then it was really weird. It was a really weird moment for landscape photography, specifically Because one Ethereum was causing so much pollution and people were like, well, you can't do that.

Jared Armijo:

Right, this is way back, you can't do that because you're ruining the Earth and it completely split, like the landscape community, like there's some people that still went, did it? Some people are like no f you, I hate all of you, you're dead to me sort of deal. It was really crazy, like I was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So it got me more interested anyway, because it was so polarizing and so and I, I love that kind of shit. Like I told him, like why is?

Jared Armijo:

it so polarizing, like let's look into that, you know, and I did, and I was like oh wow, whether he's way more than just crypt, like this crypto and mt space. It's like it's a whole big thing, a big world. A lot of people are, you know, anon, which is cool because, like I, I came from like playing a lot of video games with just landmass people around the world for like oh yeah, yeah, so to me, I'm like it didn't make a big deal, I'm like I don't care, like this is cool, like I can talk to anyone here. Um, right, so I don't know, it just got me more interested as soon as I saw more landscape photographers some I knew, some I don't know. It just got me more interested as soon as I saw more landscape photographers Some I knew, some I didn't know as well, but still joined in. So I did join in. I decided to like try to, but at that time you needed like an invite to Foundation and like I had no friends In the space, in the space, in this space, in this space, and so and I'm not the type of person straight up like I'm not gonna go like talk to random people without like if there's like a common interest here, like video games or something like.

Jared Armijo:

Sure, I don't give a shit, you know, but like I didn't really understand what they or I had no idea about any of these things. So it's just so overwhelming and I'm like, well, I don't want to bug everyone like I'm so fucking stupid with it. I ended up actually bugging some people like Ben Scar. I was like, hey, I don't get it. What is this? What's going on here? He briefly explained. He's like here, I'll introduce you to this space. I'm like, oh shit, you're going to get me on this space. I was like I never really spoke before. You know, like I've done interviews before in web 2, but like this is different because, like these are just all people I don't know and I'm like looking at all these names and shit you know, and I'm just like I'm like I don't know, I think I'm okay.

Jared Armijo:

And then I was like, all right, fucking, I'll do it anyway, because I was just like bored, I guess, and so I almost quit in the beginning, though, to be quite frank, because he needed an invite to foundation and I didn't have any friends, like I said, and I know it's funny, I did it at the time.

Jared Armijo:

So I was like, uh, well, fuck me like I can't do anything here, like because that was like the only option, or super it, and I applied to known origin. I got into known origin like way, but like months later, and then foundational system. My only super error was like you had to get accepted at the time. I mean, you still do like it was way harder back then. I feel so thankfully Ruben Wu actually gave me an invite. Other than that I would have never, I would have quit because I had no one else in the space, like I didn't have any friends there or in the space and anyone I try to talk to like friend wise, like outside of uh or in web two about entities. It wasn't good, like like some people are.

NorCal Guy:

Like I can't believe you're doing that.

Jared Armijo:

And then, and then I had others that were kind of interested but they're like, well, I don't know. And like then, Terry, I was like terry, just come, like do this with me, because like I was like I need people, I was like I need help and like I don't know. And then you know that's how I got into it really. So if it wasn't for ruben's invite, because I was like I can't get into anything and I don't know, and then you know, that's how I got into it really. So if it wasn't for Ruben's invite, cause I was like I can't get into anything and I don't know anyone here, I don't give a shit Like I can't do anything, I don't know what to do and I'm not at the time I wasn't comfortable enough to like reach out to all these random strangers like about something I just had no idea about.

Jared Armijo:

Like you know, crypto on itself is a huge big thing. So I had to learn that. What NFT was, what is minting, what is you know gas costs, what is this, what is that? And it's just like what's a PFP, you know? Like it's stupid shit like that. And trying to understand the lingo, it was like overwhelming, and so I was just like all right it. Like I think I'm just not gonna participate if I don't somehow gonna invite within like two weeks. I don't know, like I'm just gonna go peace but it worked out.

Jared Armijo:

So, like here, I am talking to you now like yeah later, right. So yeah, that's how I got into it. It's a good. It's a good story it's a good story.

NorCal Guy:

Why? Why did you choose art and what brought, or what brought, you to photography?

Jared Armijo:

you know, I've always been creative, even since I was a kid. Like I mean, like my whole family is creative as hell, like they are, like they're painters. No one else does photography but me. I'm like the outlier, I'll say, but they all paint and do like all other cool shit. Like it's kind of amazing what they can do.

Jared Armijo:

Um, and so for me personally, I think I was just born to be an artist. I mean, I've always been super creative and then, with my synesthesia, even when I was a kid, it would inspire me to be more artistic and express it without knowing I was actually expressing my synesthesia. It's like I found drawings when I went to my parents' house from when I was four or five years old, and these drawings and the reason why I'm explaining it is because these drawings were like they're just shapes, and so I would scribble on paper all kinds of different funky, amorphous shapes and then I would color them in and it was weird. I was like why the fuck? My parents were like, why do you do that? And I'm like I would never know as a kid. I'm like I don't know. I think it's pretty.

Jared Armijo:

And I would just keep on and then do the shapes and color them in really nicely, like I would do, like gradients and stuff. I'm like I mean, it was pretty cool to see how I understood color back then to what I understand color now. And so for me, I think I was born to be artistic. Whether it be a photographer, a painter, whatever the hell I'm going to do, I'm born to be artistic and probably an artist overall. So that's just who I am. But I started photo in high school. Um, one of my photo teachers, barb davis, uh, she really saw that I had an eye for shape and then she just kept pushing me to do more. She would give me all the supplies I wanted. Like literally I've tried all kinds of weird processes because she had money to spend but she wouldn't spend it on all the kids because she thought they're just wasting her shit. And she said that she didn't really say that and he's like no, they're just wasting that shit. So what do you want?

NorCal Guy:

and so true because kids, you know, there's people we're gonna focus our resources on the uh prime candidate that's basically what she said, without, like she definitely did say it, and so she.

Jared Armijo:

Because you're like they're wasting my time, like it's good, what do you want to do? And she was real honest, I'm still good friends with her.

Jared Armijo:

Now you know um that's awesome but she was like, let me do whatever. Like she gave me liquid light to paint on the objects to paint my photographs on, she would let me oil paint my photographs like on film. Um, you know, van dyke, uh, dude, cyan types, I mean literally like anything I wanted to do. If I saw like I had somewhat of interest, she's like all right, I'll buy it. And she looked and give it to me. Um, but with school, you know the school's resources, not her own right right right and I don't know.

Jared Armijo:

Ever since then I've been doing it, you know that's cool.

NorCal Guy:

That's cool, that's really that's awesome. So what? What jobs have you done along the way.

Jared Armijo:

Well, my main job, I'm sure.

Jared Armijo:

Well, some people know, uh, but I actually work in the hospital, um, I do medical imaging, so no, okay yeah I know, because I was exactly and so I was like, well, how do I make a sustainable income while helping people, while providing money for me to do actual photography that I want to do produce by anything other than my, my brain, like that is the only thing that needs to be there, nothing else. Like I don't need a cell to make a living and be okay. You know, and that's kind of like my thinking. In the process of, like, going to medical imaging, I originally I was like all right, I'm gonna be a radiologist, and then I was oh, yeah. Then I was like fuck that. I was like nah, nah, I'm good, I'm good. The lifestyle there is pretty sweet at times, but the amount of call you have to do and the amount of bullshit you have to read there's so many stupid exams that I still do just from doctor's orders I'm just like God, I'd be so pissed about to read this. Thank god I don't. I don't know. Awesome, that's basically that. Yeah, this medical.

Jared Armijo:

For the past like 11 years, I did work at tropical smoothie. I worked at tropical smoothie, though, in college. Oh, and brumas, which was like a southern restaurant when I lived in florida. It was a mom-pop shop and a house make southern food nice. So those three things don't eat that top of the smoothie anyway, by the way, it's just salt sugar and yeah, and I'm gonna say it's awful for you. I also don't like the job, so I'm probably biased perfect, perfect.

NorCal Guy:

So if you were an animal, what would you be and why?

Jared Armijo:

you know I've always been obsessed with killer whales, since I was a kid. It was like, I mean like free willy and all that. That was me. I wish it was me in the movie movie I love killer whales.

Jared Armijo:

Uh, they're creepy, they're smart, they're about family and they are the one of the most well-traveled whales in the world and I kind of admire all those. Like it keeps you, they keep you on your feet, you know. You're like they're so fucking intelligent and creepy about how they do things you know, know, like with hunting and everything. It's just like ah, I just found it so mesmerizing. I'm like, wow, these things are so fucking crazy. But that would be me.

NorCal Guy:

I love it. I love it. Do you have a favorite food?

Jared Armijo:

I have too many favorite foods. I eat too much. This is why I've been going to the gym for the past four months.

Jared Armijo:

I love a favorite food. It's good, it's good. I'll I'll say something. Recently, my favorite food overall would probably be something Japanese, probably something like sushi, just a good you know sushi bowl. But one of the best things I've had recently was an apple galette with rosemary ice cream, and it was like the apple galette had like a creme brulee kind of base, so you literally got that nice crunch it was. It was fucking insane. And so then you pair it with the rosemary ice cream. I was like god damn it, like this is like one of the best desserts I've had, and so I ordered another one to go.

NorCal Guy:

That sounds really good oh man, all right, that sounds good that sounds really good.

Jared Armijo:

It's fucking fantastic.

NorCal Guy:

I'm not gonna lie what's the best piece of advice you have been given?

Jared Armijo:

um, um, I, my dad, was military for 22 years and he would always say to me as a kid um, don't be a sheep, um, be a shepherd, uh, and so, um, I don't know. I take that a lot to heart Personally. It's just like do your own thing and just go with it, like who gives a fuck what other people are thinking or doing, or like saying or whatever, just do what you want to do. But you know, be a leader at it and like be good at it and just keep pushing on. So I guess for me that's probably one of the best advices I've had is just be me, and being me has gotten me far, you know. So I was like, okay, maybe he's right.

Jared Armijo:

I wouldn't tell him that, because he's kind of a hard ass and he knows it and I love him to death. So he won't ever listen to this. And if he does, I'm still not going to tell your dad. You probably will ever listen to this. And if he does, I'm still not going to tell your dad. You probably will actually listen to this awesome, awesome.

NorCal Guy:

I love it. I love it. Do you have any advice for artists joining the crypto art space?

Jared Armijo:

I wish I knew a lot when I came in, but I didn't. Do not FOMO into everything, jesus Christ. Do not FOMO. This space fucks with your fucking head so bad that you're just like maybe I should buy this Pepe. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because I saw so-and-so do, it's like because I saw so and so do it. And they did it and they did it. I think it's time for me to do it, and it's like it's like wait, don't you have?

Jared Armijo:

your own set of goals here, like what are you trying to do? You know with your investments for your money that you made um, I would just say do not, fomo, do what you want to do, but be smart about your moves in this space overall, because it is a very different ball game compared to like web 2. Like web 2 is very simple in my opinion. I'm like I love it. I love both spaces, but I just feel, like.

Jared Armijo:

web 2 is more like apply to this, apply, apply, apply, apply and then something will happen, right, whereas Web3 is like you have all these little intricacies with crypto and then a T market, and then what if the stock market goes down or some bullshit? World event happens, and now you're, there's a lot to it. So I would just say do not fomo in and pay attention like to all that is happening in the world and in one thing, when you're trying to make investments and do not get caught up in the phone.

Jared Armijo:

Oh my god, I've seen so many artists like just get burnt, you know, on it and like they lose. I've seen so many artists just get burnt on it. They lose what they've made from their art. I'm like, ah fuck, I feel bad. I do because I'm just like man, I don't know. That's a terrible thing to see. It is that's why I would hope other people coming into this space would realize Do not film on land. Pay attention, know your goals, know when to sell. Take profits like. Take fucking profits like at the end of the day, if you're trying to get to a different goal of abc, like I want to buy this or I need a new camera, or you know I need to pay off my mortgage or you know, whatever that, whatever your thing is, remember that, like, get what you need to do that and don't just blah, throw it away, especially if you made it right for sure I wish.

Jared Armijo:

Someone told me that in the beginning though right right, but I've been pretty good. I was like, really I'm like I'm always I'm very defensive with these things, Cause I'm just like I don't know I can't buy a lot, Cause like I just like freak out, Like if I do an investment sort of thing, like you know, I don't know, that's just my personality, so.

NorCal Guy:

But yeah, anyway, that's my advice, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, I like it. I like it if you could live or move anywhere where would you live and why?

Jared Armijo:

you know it's so funny. When you sent me these questions, I literally like I was reading through and I was like cool, cool, nice, and then this question came up and I was just like what the fuck? And and I mean that in a good way, and let me explain why I said that I just finished making a piece about feeling out of place, like a photo, and I was like cause I, you know, I just moved here to New Mexico from Oregon. I lived in Oregon for eight years and I said fuck it, I want to move. And I moved here to New Mexico from Oregon. I lived in Oregon for eight years. I said fuck it, I want to move. I moved here with my partner.

Jared Armijo:

Then I'm coming to realize, maybe these past two months, that maybe I just don't belong in the USA, lived outside, well, and I say that because it's just, you know, like you know, we don't have universal health care. I work in health care. Like I see how fucked up the system is, and so it's just these little things like that. And it's like, is this shit ever gonna change in the us? Or like no, you know, like, what the fuck are we doing here and so, and then it just had me questioning like because I lived in other countries before, like japan and england, and I'm like I know every country has their own issue but would I be happier with their issues than the us issues?

Jared Armijo:

And then I said I probably would be okay with their issues over the us issues issues. So the places I had in mind was like New Zealand would be pretty cool. I could never do Canada, it's too cold, it's too snowy. But I literally thought New Zealand, potentially Australia, those would probably be one of the top two picks I think I'd pick, maybe somewhere in Europe, maybe I know when you got, when I got that question, I was just like ah, what? That's fucking weird.

Jared Armijo:

Damn, this fucking, this fucking world right, right, all right that's fair, that's so do you have any questions for me?

Jared Armijo:

Yeah, okay. So I got asked this question from a patient Okay, they're really out of it. And so I was just kind of like, okay, okay, so. But he asked he's like, out of the seven deadly sins, which one do you think ruins humanity? And I was like, and this guy was very like out of it and I was just like, so like I was actually taken back because I didn't think, just by looking at the guy and this is not to be super judgmental or anything, it's just like I didn't think, you know, like, because you're so out of it, like he was high off of something, right, right, and I was just like, whoa, that's a deep ass question you're asking right now, right, and I am about to scan you and, uh, and I just looked, I was, you know, let me think on it and I'll tell you what I think after the scan, because I was like that's a very deep question and I don't mind answering it, but that is my question to you Because it was a very crazy question.

NorCal Guy:

That is a crazy question and let me just read off what those seven deadly sins there you go. Okay, I had a little guy and I'm like I'm not even prepared for this, yeah so lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride, and which one ruins the world.

Jared Armijo:

The most is what he said or asked.

NorCal Guy:

I'm gonna say pride okay on my my side.

Jared Armijo:

There you go. There we have it. Pride is gonna end the world, according to NorCal. So if something happens bad tomorrow, y'all it's his fault. He predicted it. That's on him. Oh man, frick, all right.

NorCal Guy:

Any other questions?

Jared Armijo:

No, I mean, I was like that's a really good question. It caught me off guard and I was working. I was like yeah, I'll ask that, oh no, alright.

NorCal Guy:

Well, do you have any shout outs, any upcoming projects you'd like to talk about?

Jared Armijo:

for shout outs uh, to say you know, terry, of course, because she is literally like my rock. I I call her she's like my earth because I like I am very like airy and kind of out there sometimes, like out in the sky, just very airy kind of element. She's more of a grounding and so it's so funny because we're opposites on a lot of things like that, but we're like she's like my best friend. So I would definitely say her, I would say TJ Thorne, I love TJ. I just got his book, which is fucking amazing.

Jared Armijo:

God, it's fucking good and like I've seen, I know TJ's work right and I'm like, yeah, okay, I want the book, yeah, but I'm like looking through it last night and I was so blown away by it I was just like holy shit, like this is insane. These water photographs are just fucking nuts. So, tj, uh, zach, joelle, I love joelle. I I got to meet her twice and hang out with her. She came to my sister's house in the mexico actually, like ran away randomly ran away and she like, yeah, I'm in new mexico.

Jared Armijo:

I was like what the fuck? And uh, kath, kath samard is pretty, she's pretty fucking awesome. So those are my shout outs, I think, um, any project I'm working on I'm starting a project called death is, and it's based off of southwestern kind of theme. Uh, since I worked during the pandemic, I saw a lot more death uh in my job and it just, you know, it just makes you question so much more, and I was a cancer hospital I worked at as well.

Jared Armijo:

So it was just a really bad combo, be stuck in the fucking pandemic. Like I know it's like dark humor, funny and it is now. It is now, and like I can totally laugh at it because it's just like that's the shit luck I get. Dude, that's the shit stuff that happens to me and I'm just like I'm. It's just so funny Cause like me and Terry talking about the like one like a while ago and she's like I have a great life, that's what.

NorCal Guy:

Terry says she's like.

Jared Armijo:

I haven't had really any bad things happen like you've had, and I'm like I know you don't need to tell me, terry, I'm living it, thank you. But yeah, the project is going to be it's called Death Is, and it's going to be a little different for me. It's going to take me probably a year or two to actually do oh wow, um, oh wow. Basically it's like I'm gonna make some sort of like, uh, kind of like a grim reaper, but not more. Um, how do you explain like a bit more southwestern kind of george o'keefe twist with it? Um, and it's got me all these different, different examples of what death is to me and what I've seen through you know, my past years, but in different landscapes and whatnot. So it'll be a very different kind of portrait work. But yeah, that's, it Sounds good.

NorCal Guy:

Nice, I look forward to it. Man, that'd be good. Yeah, oh, have a good, yeah, oh oh man, I'm just messing around oh man awesome well, jared. Yes, thank you for your time today for this interview. I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of laughs, it's really good, I laugh a lot.

Jared Armijo:

I've been told that like I've been told I can say whatever to someone because I laugh, and like I can get away with it because I laugh, and where I laugh at them, to them because they're like your laugh is so contagious that you can literally call me a fucking idiot and I'll probably laugh at it and I'm like I try not to do it, but I've been guilty of it, I'm not gonna lie.

NorCal Guy:

But it's all good fun anyway, cool man.

Jared Armijo:

Well, I hope you have a great day and we'll talk soon, cool.

NorCal Guy:

But it's all good fun, perfect, anyway, yeah, cool man. Well, I hope you have a great day and we'll talk soon, cool.

Jared Armijo:

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NorCal Guy:

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Jared Armijo:

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NorCal Guy:

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