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Shoot First, Mint Later: A Photographer's Guide to NFTs with Killian Moore
What happens when a health crisis forces you to abandon old habits and discover new passions? For Killian Moore, putting down the beer and picking up a camera transformed not just his health, but his entire perspective on New York City—a place he'd called home for over a decade.
"When you're documenting the everyday life of New York, you start seeing the city differently," Killian reveals in our conversation. "Before that I had just been a regular New Yorker who was trying to get from point A to point B as quick as possible and pushing people out of the way to get there." This shift in perspective eventually led him skyward, where he discovered his love for aerial photography, shooting from doors-off helicopters to capture the city from breathtaking new angles.
Our discussion travels from Killian's early days of learning photography through Instagram communities to his current work as an in-flight aerial photography instructor. We explore his thoughtful approach to Web3 security (including his four separate hardware wallets, each with a specific purpose), and his entry into NFTs just before the 2021 boom—a time when only a handful of photographers were minting work.
For artists considering the NFT space, Killian offers wisdom earned through experience: "Take your time. Just because you have work to mint doesn't mean that you should mint it immediately." He emphasizes the importance of education, security awareness, and finding supportive communities willing to share knowledge.
Whether you're a photographer looking to enter Web3, an NFT collector curious about artistic process, or simply someone who appreciates the power of reinvention, this conversation offers valuable insights about craft, community, and the courage to see familiar surroundings through fresh eyes.
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NorCal Guy:Your Cal and Shil podcast what the shil, what the shil. Today's guest is Killian Moore. Killian is an Irish-born New York City-based cityscape, landscape and aerial photographer. After living in New York for 12 years, killian picked up a camera to view the city from a different perspective. Initially, he was self-taught and then he connected with other local photographers through Instagram, where he met some of his biggest influences and mentors. After about a year, he began his love affair with flying over the city and shooting new perspectives from doors off helicopters. He is now an in-flight aerial photography instructor with Wings Air Helicopters.
NorCal Guy:In 2019, killian found his love of the night sky and began taking deep space astrophotography images. This new endeavor included a steep learning curve that involved automating a computer-controlled astrophotography images. This new endeavor included a steep learning curve that involved automating a computer-controlled astrophotography rig. Always up for the challenge, killian researched and networked for months to improve his imaging and workflow. Still a work in progress. His astrophotography continues to drive him deeper into new areas of photography. Continues to drive him deeper into new areas of photography. In early 2021, killian began researching the emerging field of NFTs. The new form of crypto art has intrigued and driven him to break into the NFT market. The crypto art space opens up many new opportunities for all artists and Killian is excited to have joined the movement near its inception. Everyone, please welcome Killian. Hey, killian, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?
Killian:GM. How are you doing?
NorCal Guy:Doing good, doing good. It's a nice day no rain today here in Northern California and just enjoying the weather.
Killian:It's cold and wet and miserable in New York City today. No, I feel like it's always cold in the and miserable in New York City today.
NorCal Guy:Oh, I feel like it's always cold in the wintertime in New York.
Killian:Yeah, you can't complain. If you live in New York City, you can't complain about the cold in the winter or the hot in the summer, because it's just what you sign up for when you move here.
NorCal Guy:Right, right, yeah, so it's. Let's see here. It's like five o'clock over there.
Killian:Yeah, it's quitting time, it's like five o'clock over there it's quitting time.
NorCal Guy:It's quitting time About to go home. I know it's just two, two o'clock here. My son's sleeping right now. It's nap time and I'm just enjoying an interview, waiting until, hopefully, he wakes up around four.
Killian:So oh nice, he gets a nice long nap yeah.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, he's a good sleeper.
Killian:My son should hang out with him, so he could teach him how to sleep properly.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, I don't know how we got lucky, but both our kids just will sleep. It's awesome. Well, my daughter does not nap anymore. She like refuses, but they both sleep through the night pretty good, so that's been nice.
Killian:Awesome.
NorCal Guy:So I guess we could just jump into it. Do you have a hardware wallet and do you use your hardware wallet?
Killian:I do. I have four hardware wallets. Wow, I know you can make multiple wallets in the one ledger, but I like to keep everything separate because I'm a little OCD, so I bought four different ledgers.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Killian:I have one that's a freezer that just gets transferred high value assets and it sits there, it doesn't connect to anything. Then I have a warm ledger that I'll use to connect for, like claiming BAYC type of things where you have to connect your wallet to mint other stuff. I have a ledger for my art collection, for all the pieces that I've collected. I put all my art into one ledger and then I have one that I put eat into and I don't look at it. I give it to my wife.
NorCal Guy:Ah, good thing she doesn't know how to spend it yet.
Killian:Yeah, she's got no idea what the thing's for Nice.
NorCal Guy:No, I like that because I mean mean, you guys set it up in a way that makes sense for you and that you'll use it like for security purposes, or however responsibly.
Killian:Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, and if that's like it's nerve-wracking when you're setting it up for the first time and you're transferring assets across because, like anything in web3, when you get into it it's convoluted. There's not very many instructions out there and you're just clicking a button and you're hoping things are going where they're supposed to be going right. But once you get used to it you get more comfortable. But you can't get complacent. You have to remember that they are security devices, that you have to use them cautiously yeah, as long as you're using them, however, your setup is that's good yeah, yeah so what were your first thoughts when you heard about nfts and crypto art?
Killian:I was like what the hell? This is amazing. The thing that really kicked nfts off for me was the royalties and perpetuity that I thought that something special, which we've since come to learn that not everybody feels the same way about it, but that was a big draw to me. And it was actually Mike Sadowski, mindseye that brought them. It was him and Ill Concept, mike Spots. Both of them brought NFTs to my attention and Mike had gotten an invitation Minds, and Mike had gotten an invitation Minds. I had gotten an invitation to Foundation and he'd gotten extra invitations. Like, look, if I give you one, will you use it? I'm like, why wouldn't I use it? It's another possible source of income through my art. I was like, why not? What is there to lose? And then I went into the big, deep rabbit hole of learning about crypto and NFTs. This was in March of 21. Yeah, yeah, almost two full years, march of 21. And it was just before the big boom started.
Killian:So there wasn't very many people that you could reach out and talk to, especially photographers. There was only maybe 10 or 15 photographers that were minting work, and Mike was the only one that I knew. So we kind of navigated the landscape, bouncing stuff off each other, and then we met another couple of photographers. We all became like a think tank together. One of them actually is a developer, so he understood Web3 and was able to point us Focus Pirate, chris Kelly. He was able to kind of give us a WebTree security brief and do's and don'ts, which was really really helpful, because it is so convoluted when you start off and you just don't know what you're doing For sure. That's awesome. So it really helps to find the group that are willing to help you out when you get in.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, no, it definitely seems like there's like these groups of like people that have been together from their starting point, From day one. Yeah, and just like yeah and I mean, and the friendships have just gotten stronger. It seems like I mean it's been cool to watch and see.
Killian:It's really cool. The amount of people that I have met through nft is that I was never exposed to before, right, but they become like family members because we've spent so much time talking and navigating this space over the last two years.
NorCal Guy:Right, that's being really, really cool yeah, it's funny because you're like I would never trust anyone on the internet. And now here we all are trusting each other.
Killian:Yeah, it's funny because my wife came to a lot of the events for NFT NYC with me last year.
Killian:And she said it was just so interesting being an outsider looking into the dynamic of all of these people that have been talking nonstop online for the last 18 months meeting each other for the first time, Right, and she was like it was just so interesting to see how people were interacting. But we're humans, so we are shy when we meet. Generally, most of us are shy when we meet other people. Even if you've spoken to them before on the phone or on the internet.
NorCal Guy:It's still a weird dynamic to meet somebody in person, Right for sure, especially when it's all like pfps and then you're like uh, who are?
Killian:you. Okay, that's what you look like, yeah yeah, for sure.
NorCal Guy:Oh. So why did you choose art? What brought you to photography?
Killian:so I got into photography about seven years ago. I had to quit drinking. I had some health issues. I was getting pancreatitis from drinking and I was told I'd get pancreatic cancer if I didn't stop drinking. And that was that was like alarm bells. Okay, just stop. So I stopped drinking. And when I stopped drinking I stopped my other hobby, which was making beer. I made beer that's what I did in my free time and I needed something to fill that void.
Killian:I had a friend in New York City that had gotten into photography. He said why don't you just get a camera and come out with me and shoot? I was like, okay, I can do that. So my wife bought me a camera for my birthday and it just took over from there. Really, it just I started seeing the city in a whole new light. I had lived in new york for 13 years or so at that stage.
Killian:Okay, but when I had start walking around with a camera, I started seeing the city differently. It was a different experience. When you're documenting the everyday life of new york, which is what I was doing. I was just walking around neighborhoods taking pictures. I wasn't setting up for the big grand postcard shots that I have since learned how to do. I was literally just wandering the streets snapping pictures of interesting things that I saw, and before that I had just been a regular New Yorker who was trying to get from point A to point B as quick as possible and pushing people out of the way to get there and not paying attention to what was going on around me in the city. But when you slow down and you start looking for stuff through a camera, it looks totally different.
NorCal Guy:Right? No, it's true, it's very true.
Killian:And I just got hooked Within the first week. I was just hooked. I was like this is amazing. And then I start posting on instagram and I start getting a following on instagram and I start. I started getting into. There was a. I'm not so involved in instagram anymore because I just think it's become baby tiktok and if you don't publish videos, you don't get seen. I didn't pick up a camera to make videos and pick up a camera and take pictures, so I kind of shied away from instagram for the last couple years. But there was a big, strong new york city instagram community. So I start meeting up with people like paul sybert beholding eye and some other people that aren't in web3 and they just became friends and I start learning from them and I really just got hooked. It just just became part of my life at that stage.
NorCal Guy:Nice I like that. Yeah, I just recently picked up a camera this past summer and I definitely got hooked on it more than I was expecting. It's been fun.
Killian:It is. It's a lot of fun. It can be frustrating at times as well, especially when it doesn't come off the way that you had envisioned it and you have to figure out what you did. Wrong, right, and when you take that camera out of automatic and you start messing around with the settings and knowing how to use your camera. It can be frustrating at the start, but it's very rewarding when you put the time in for sure, definitely is.
NorCal Guy:I mean one thing, I mean just from my perspective, that has been like I have dials on my camera, so it's not I don't have, so it has that really tactile feel and has live view. So, as you're like learning, you can the triangle, the light triangle I don't even remember what it's called right now. Anyways, you can like live preview, like okay, how to do this? This changes and it's very.
Killian:oh yeah, you can see in the EVF. You can see the exposures change and stuff. Yeah yeah, oh, you got one of those fancy Leicas didn't you?
Intro:That's Pete's fault.
NorCal Guy:I have one of those. I did pick up a Fuji X100V as well.
Killian:Oh nice.
NorCal Guy:So that's been fun too.
Killian:I want to get my hands on one of them.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, I got lucky. I found it used on like KEH, like mint condition. I was like no one's buying this. I'm buying it right now. Awesome. What jobs have you done along the way?
Killian:Oh my God, I've done so many jobs in my life. When I was 11 or 12, my sister had gotten a ghetto blaster for Christmas. I was like why didn't I get a ghetto blaster for Christmas? Because you've got to bike, gotta bite young, grateful little shit. And I said I want a ghetto blaster. And they said if you want a ghetto blaster, you you have to get a job and you save up enough money to pay for half of it. We'll pay for the other half. Okay, so I've had odd jobs since I was 11 or 12. Tough love ir Irish mammies. They really set you up for life with their tough love. So I had a paper round I would cut people's lawns, I would trim their hedges. Then I worked in a dry cleaners for three or four years, during the summers when I was off from school and at the weekends, big dry cleaners warehouse factory. I was the gopher. I basically did whatever they told me to do. Professionally I did an electrical apprenticeship in Ireland. I'm a licensed and qualified electrician.
NorCal Guy:Oh nice.
Killian:I did that in New York City for seven or eight years and then I got into. I'm now a building manager. I manage a residential condominium. Okay, so you name it.
NorCal Guy:I've probably done it Nice. I like it. I like the variety.
Killian:Yeah, you got to try a little bit of everything. I'm like I think that's why I like art, because I'm good with my hands. I, I'm like I. I think that's why I I like art, because I'm good with my hands. I can make things. I'm a logical thinking person so I can figure out the need to figure out something works. I can figure it out and I can make it work, or I can. I just have that type of brain, yeah, and I've always, if I, if I'm not doing something, I'm bored.
NorCal Guy:And when I'm bored is when I'm at my most dangerous to myself I get idle hands Right.
Killian:No, no, I feel you on that. So I've always done something or want to be doing something, learning something new.
NorCal Guy:That's awesome. It's always good to be expanding learning. I love that part.
Killian:Yeah, someone said to me once every day is a school day and if you're not learning, you're not doing it right. Ooh, that's a good one. I like it. So you always got to try and keep improving on yourself and your knowledge, for sure.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, it's a huge. I mean it's fun and I mean it keeps you thinking. You got to keep thinking, yeah. So if you were an animal, what would you be and why?
Killian:I hate this question, you know. I've given it some thought. I've listened to other people's responses. I still am not a hundred percent sure. I think I'd be an eagle because, you know, I like being above places taking pictures, so I like looking down on things and seeing things from a different angle. I also like the solitude because I'm kind of an introvert but I'm also I do like having those close to me around me, so kind of a pack animal as well when I have my pack around me. So maybe a wolf, so an eagle or a wolf.
NorCal Guy:Okay, those work. They both work. I like them.
Killian:Yeah, what animal would you be? I know you've been asked this before.
NorCal Guy:Do you give the same answer every time? I do give the same answer every time. Trying to trip you up here, I know I've tried that.
Killian:I've thought about switching it up I'm like no, I'm just gonna stick with the octopus, it's a good one. It's a good one as well. I thought about being a whale, because, like you're the solitude under the ocean, you're seeing a different side of of planet earth. There's some fascinating creatures out there, though, as well, that like imagine being a centipede and having all those legs and crawling over bushes and avoiding humans. Right right, everybody picks an animal at the top of the food chain. Nobody picks an animal that's low on the food chain that's true, oh man.
NorCal Guy:Well, do you have a favorite food? Speaking of food chain, I like comfort food.
Killian:There's no one particular dish that I could pick out, like steaks, sushi, but I also like home cooking cabbage and potatoes. Just I like.
NorCal Guy:I just like good food, it's like I mean I see some of those pictures in the rca rcsa of some I like I, I like to cook, but it's funny I don't like to cook for myself.
Killian:I only like to cook when there's other people going to be eating with me. Uh, okay, so I like I won't go and make myself a nice elaborate meal. If I'm home alone, right, I'll eat crap, I'll eat junk out of the presses, but if you're in my house and you're hungry, I'll cook as a five course meal, because I just I like cooking for people. And this goes back to working with my hands and being good at things. Like I'm actually a pretty good cook and I can figure out how to make a good dish.
NorCal Guy:So come over to my house, I'll cook you dinner all right, sounds good like a good dish, so come over to my house.
Killian:I'll cook you dinner. All right, sounds like a good plan to me. It's a date.
NorCal Guy:I feel like you've given a good piece of advice earlier, but if you had an alternate, what's the best piece of advice you've been given?
Killian:If you're going to do a job, do it right the first time. Yeah, that's a solid one, and it was explained to me that if you're going to take your time to try and do something, take all the time you need to do that thing right, because if you don't do it right the first time, you're going to spend more time coming back trying to fix it.
NorCal Guy:Right, that's very true.
Killian:And time is one of the most valuable assets that we have.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, and it seems like, well, we don't realize that until we're older, when our time actually is more valuable.
Killian:Yeah, it really. If someone's late for a meeting, it really annoys me because, like you're now, wasting my time and I could be doing other productive things with my time For sure. So I think time is one of the most important assets that we have and we have to use it wisely, yes, and productively. Don't fuck up making yourself having to go back and do things over and over and over again.
NorCal Guy:Just take the time and do it right yeah, do you have advice for artists joining the NFT space?
Killian:Take your time. Oh man, there's so much. It's like really, just take your time. Don't just because you have worked to mint doesn't mean that you should mint it immediately. We all have, especially photographers. We have thousands of pictures. It doesn't mean that you need to go and mint them all immediately. Take your time. Learn about web3, learn about wallets transactions. Find a group of people, like-minded people, that are willing to help you, and 90 of the people that are in web3 are willing to help you. Very true, all you got to do is reach out and ask them and they'll respond to you that they are willing to help you or they'll point you. They could point you towards somebody else who has better knowledge and what you're looking for. Right, but really education, because there's so much to learn and I know everything happens super fast in nfts, but we are cliche, but we are so early that you have time. Just take it. Yeah, learn, learn and go slowly.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, solid.
Killian:Yeah, and like really security. I think is a big thing, because so many new people into the space unfortunately get tricked with phishing scams. Or click on bad links because they're excited because it could be it looks like their first sale, oh yeah. Or click on bad links because they're excited because it looks like their first sale. So just take it slow and educate yourself before you jump in with two feet.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, for sure.
Killian:And reach out. My DMs are open to everybody. If anybody needs any advice, please feel free to reach out.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, definitely do. Utilize those resources when you can.
Killian:Yeah, there's so many people willing to help. I know because I've reached out to so many people asking advice over the last two years and I've maybe once or twice I haven't gotten responses from people. Yeah, the rest of the time, everybody is more than willing to help.
NorCal Guy:Yes, they are. So if you could live or move anywhere, where would you live, and why?
Killian:I would live in a Norvy. Ah, I haven't heard that one yet. I would live in a Norvy and I would travel. That's my retirement goal. It always has been a dream of mine to travel to the United States and not have to worry about work. So I would buy a Norvy and I would just travel, and I would probably extend that to being able to travel to Europe, and I would probably extend that to being able to travel to Europe. I would like to see as much of this world as I can before. I'm not here anymore, so I'd be a nomad.
NorCal Guy:I like it. That's pretty solid. I know my wife and I wanted to, when the kids get like a couple years older, like either get an RV or rent one and do like a few road trips around the US.
Killian:Yeah, we're going to be doing that probably. Maybe next year my parents will come out. I want to do Highway 1. That's really high on my list. Oh yeah, yeah so, but there's so many places in the. United States that are just. I was just in Utah this past April or May, whenever it was, and it's just like there's so much to see in this country that you could literally probably spend 30 years traveling and still not see everything.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, there really is a lot, I mean even around where I live, I mean we. I mean, it's granted, when you live somewhere you tend not to see the things around you. But I know there's a ton of things around us that we could go see, that are awesome, but we just haven't done it. But there's just so much.
Killian:Yeah, it's really amazing. It's funny that you say that when you live in a place, you don't go and see it. Like we were just talking about bringing my kids doing a road trip in Ireland and there's so much of Ireland that I haven't seen because when you live in, as you said, if you live in in a place, you don't go and do the touristy things right. So I'm actually looking forward to going doing a road trip in ireland with my kids because there's so many of. I've never kissed the blarney stone. I probably won't now anyway, but I've never been to the blarney stone.
Killian:I've never seen the cliffs of moher. I've never been to the giant's causeway, the beautiful basalt rock formation, oh yeah, and from so like there's so much I haven't seen that. I'm looking forward to getting to go and be a tourist. That's awesome one of these days that sounds great.
NorCal Guy:Do you have any questions for me?
Killian:I do so you've acquired a reputation as a genesis sniper. Uh-huh. Do you feel pressure now from the community, because you've been so hot on getting people's genesis, to buy genesis from people?
NorCal Guy:well, I guess it also depends, I mean so. So I mean, yes, there's different, like people like claim different genesis, like they're first on foundation and then they're first on super rare and then they're first on this platform. Right, and it's kind of funny to me Cause like I, I mean I'll go grab it if it's like a first and I like it, but I guess I would prefer like their very first, like ever, if I can get it, which there's not very many of those out unless yeah, I did see.
Killian:you got Paul Nicklin's one though.
NorCal Guy:Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that was like yeah, I got like three of those. I'm thinking about grabbing another one from someone else Because, like I don't know why people aren't bidding on those. I mean that's like so. I mean that's part of my thinking is like why, when I want to buy someone's work, I like to look at their past, their history, to see how committed they are to their craft. To begin with, initially, there definitely was a lot of just people throwing stuff up and just seeing if people would buy it.
Killian:Yeah.
NorCal Guy:But those people have shown their commitment to their craft, shown that they're successful and have made it. They've put in the work. So it seems like an easy. Why would I not do that?
Killian:Seems like a no-brainer right.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, exactly so. Yeah, I was surprised that I got those with no hassle at all.
Killian:Fantastic pieces, yeah. So the second part of my question because you buy so many Genesis, does it affect your buying of other work?
NorCal Guy:Does that make sense. What do you mean exactly by affect your other Like I won't?
Killian:buy a piece? No, because you see so many genesis pieces. Is your attention drawn away from other work that is out there, or do you spend an equal amount of time browsing all of all work?
NorCal Guy:oh yeah. So I mean these days I, how I see stuff, is through notifications. I don't like browse twitter or scroll it, I'll just like see what notifications I get from like a few people that I follow for, like retweets or whatnot. So, like there's a few people I follow, I'm like all right, I think they will probably be retweeting good work or have like say good things here and there. So those are the people I have like notification turned on for. So I'll just, you know, try and quickly go through that throughout the day here and there and see if anything pops up. And that's generally how I see stuff. Or if someone DMs me like, hey, check out this.
Killian:Right, that's a good hack as well. I have notification turned on for some accounts as well. It's a good hack to curate a separate feed for Twitter as well.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, yeah. I mean, initially I was going to make like lists, like to scroll through, but then I was like that's just it takes so much time.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, yeah. So part of it is like that's hard, is the space is really good at retweeting other people's work? That's hard, is the space is really good at retweeting other people's work? So if you're like, have a like a Twitter list that you would want to go through, and if all those people are retweeting all this different work, you're like, wow, there's not. Like you're just seeing a lot of retweets.
Killian:Basically, Right, you're seeing the same content over and over, and over and over.
NorCal Guy:Yeah Right, yeah right makes sense which it's always like uh, it's like this weird, like it's awesome. Everyone's retweeting work, and sometimes I saw this like if I go to someone's profile, I'm like man, where's their tweet?
Killian:because it's so many retweets, but yeah, that is the one, that is the one drawback on Twitter, but it is great that so many artists support so many other artists. It is, it is and it's because we all believe in the space of what we're building and we want to see it succeed.
NorCal Guy:Very true, yeah, yeah. And I wouldn't say to stop doing that. It just, I guess, make sure you have a very solid pinned tweet that's always up to date.
Killian:Yeah, yeah, guess, make sure you have a very solid pin tweet that's always up to date. Yeah, yeah, and they got rid of. I have a twitter moment, which was great because you could group a whole load of tweets together. Oh, yeah you're rated that way, but they got rid of moments, moments. Now my moment is still my pin tweet, but I can't update it anymore. Oh, got it. So elon Elon's ruining it for us.
NorCal Guy:Well, things are being experimented. Do you have any other questions?
Killian:Are you still having?
NorCal Guy:fun in the space. Yes, I will say, the hard part is I miss a lot of DMs, and it's just today. I had another interview earlier today and I went to send like the link for like the zen caster link and I was like, oh dude, I didn't even see that you'd messaged me, like it's weird that I, you know, like you're in this space and it just I hate the twitter dm so much because you, it's just like whatever, if you're in any group chats or anything, those are at the top and you can't like you have to leave them, you can't like ignore them because they're always at the top and whatever is recent is at the top.
Killian:There's no way to sort by unread, right yeah?
NorCal Guy:So that's really frustrating. So I miss a lot of DMs, which I feel that part makes me a little like I feel bad, because I feel like I'm not purposely ignoring people, it's just because you get all these dms and then, like your screen only fits like what is it like? 10?
NorCal Guy:maybe, yeah, if that yeah and if you get 10 dms and like overnight or whatever, you're gonna miss a lot of dms, like especially as they start coming in, or yeah, it sucks. I wish there was another way. That's the only part I hate about the space, because I'm like damn it. I feel like an ass sometimes because I honestly don't see dms yeah, I'm the same like I'm like.
Killian:I can't even imagine what your dms are like. Mine are a mess.
NorCal Guy:I can't imagine what yours are like but yeah, yeah, but I mean it's fun, I like the space, I like talking with people, so that's, it's been really nice. I definitely, you know, try and be careful about who I open DMs with, cause I don't want to get into a DM. That's like very time consuming at this point. Like there's the people that I enjoy talking to this point, like there's the people that I enjoy talking to, and then I'm like I don't know how much more bandwidth I have but it is what it is.
Killian:Yeah, it's a fun space. It can be. It can take its toll. That's actually should be another piece of advice for new artists just have fun, don't let it. It's easier said than done, but the space can weigh on you and sales can weigh on you. It's not about sales. It's about making a community and making the space work and try and have some fun when you're doing it yeah, and don't spend all day on twitter like, yeah, you don't need to be on twitter all day.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, it's, I know some people do and it's like I I don't know how you got to get other stuff done or go out, walk a little bit. I was just in Tahoe the last three days and it was just good to get out. I mean, I posted a couple of tweets, but I was not checking DMs. I was just out enjoying the snow. So definitely get out and be in the moment For sure, because as much as uh, these people online are awesome and they are good friends, like you're making real friendships, but you gotta remember those people that are actually in your life every day. Yeah, around you, yeah, cool. Well, do you have any shout outs or any upcoming projects?
Killian:I have a few things in the pipeline, nothing confirmed yet, but one of my goals for this year, I want to get in the fake rare directory.
NorCal Guy:I want to make a this year oh so I had.
Killian:I had an awesome pepe made and then I had I shared it with someone some of the higher ups in the pepe community and they loved it. They wanted to be made into a card, but my dumb ass didn't look at the file specifications before making the card and what I did was I used a landscape photoshop and made the card out of that uh and it just won't work.
Killian:I just can't make it work for specific requirements for a pepe, so I have to go back to the. Yeah, I have a few ideas. I've been throwing ideas around there, but, like one of my big goals for this year, I want to be in that directory nice, that'll be fun so it's such a cool community I know you're deep in it as well. It's just the vibe is awesome. They're just.
NorCal Guy:It's just a bunch of really fun loving people yeah, for sure, I mean, and some series eight was just insane some of really fun-loving people?
Killian:Yeah, for sure. And Series 8 was just insane. Some of the art that's coming out of it is just amazing.
NorCal Guy:Yeah, the vibe at the Pepe galleries has always been just chill, hang out, chat. It's been nice.
Killian:Yeah, they're really fun people, so that's one of my goals for this year Shout-outs. I'll just say hello to my just chilling family. They know who they are grifter community as well.
Killian:That's one that I'm lucky enough to be part of. Grifters are grifters are going to grift and they're a tight bunch of people and they're really, really awesome. And just to everybody who interacts with me every single day and supports my art and appreciates my art, I thank you for being part of this journey. It's it, it means a lot, and wouldn't be here without everybody's support every single day.
NorCal Guy:Nice, I like it. That's pretty solid. Well, killian, thank you so much for your time and spending this interview with me.
Killian:It's been awesome, man. It made me really happy when you sent me the DM and asked me to be on Love what you do.
NorCal Guy:You're a great community member and happy to be able to jump on here and have a chat with you I know, I know, I know, I think, if it's feel like it's been since the early, early on, I don't know whatever. What was that summer of like 21, I don't know when. That was when I jumped into that rcsa discord yeah, I, I came in just after you.
Killian:Oh, you did okay yeah, they're another good bunch of people as well. Shout out to the rcsa discord people you know who you are. Yeah, it's been really fun to get to know you thanks for all you do in the community because you really are a stand, stand-up.
NorCal Guy:Member of the community well, thanks, I appreciate that and I appreciate you know all that you've been doing and putting out and I can't wait to I hope we get the hang of you.
Killian:Are you coming to nft nyc?
NorCal Guy:yes, that's the plan currently. Yes, this is, it is on the calendar awesome.
Killian:Well, I look forward to hanging out.
NorCal Guy:We'll have that steak this time all right, right, right, right, for sure. Uh, cool. Well, you take care, enjoy your evening and we'll talk soon thanks, man really appreciate it bye, norcalguy.
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